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leggedstruggle Flag Croydon 14 Aug 15 6.08pm

I'm a supporter of the NHS, it is a great achievement providing quality healthcare to all. However, it should be a much tighter ship. I think this article highlights well just one area, health tourism, that needs sorting out:

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And stop providing nonsense like sex changes and fertility treatment. The NHS is to heal the sick, ffs.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 14 Aug 15 6.18pm

Great another NHS thread...

I hope you are doing all you can to stop the backdoor cronyism betwixt party donors who have a vested interest and mp's during the transfer from public to private ownership.

 

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leggedstruggle Flag Croydon 14 Aug 15 6.29pm

You know Nick, I want the NHS to stay a public institution. But I would like it run efficiently and for the benefit of British people. Some peripheral areas perhaps could be farmed out to private facilities. It should stop being regarded as a totally sacred cow with any change being resisted and with the answer to any problem being throw more money at it.

 


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Yep the NHS is great no doubt, but don't get me started on health tourism. It's a national health service not an international health service. People flying here to have a baby, as one Ugandan woman did. She should have been turned away, and anyone else who comes here for an operation. These people have never paid into the system yet expect treatment, f*** them!

I also agree that gender re-assignment should not be given out either, or breast enlargement or reduction.

As for my own personal experiences, I've got nothing but good things to say, I've only had positive experiences.

 

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Quote Cucking Funt at 14 Aug 2015 6.16pm

And stop providing nonsense like sex changes and fertility treatment. The NHS is to heal the sick, ffs.


Funny that you say that now - changed your tune from 2 years ago......Dorothy.

 


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as a minimum, no translators. Patient doesn't speak any english, just give them two aspirins and send them on their way.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 14 Aug 15 7.23pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 14 Aug 2015 6.29pm

You know Nick, I want the NHS to stay a public institution. But I would like it run efficiently and for the benefit of British people. Some peripheral areas perhaps could be farmed out to private facilities. It should stop being regarded as a totally sacred cow with any change being resisted and with the answer to any problem being throw more money at it.


What percentage of NHS nurses and doctors are immigrants?
They're propping the NHS up.


Where's the drive for nurses training in the UK? Am I correct when I say we need midwives? Overseas workers are filling gaps because we haven't got the people to fill them.

Rightly or wrongly, being a nurse involves getting a degree, which in turn equals fees and student loans. Many people don't want such a debt burden, especially if they want a house too.


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 14 Aug 15 7.25pm

Quote fed up eagle at 14 Aug 2015 7.19pm

Yep the NHS is great no doubt, but don't get me started on health tourism. It's a national health service not an international health service. People flying here to have a baby, as one Ugandan woman did. She should have been turned away, and anyone else who comes here for an operation. These people have never paid into the system yet expect treatment, f*** them!

I also agree that gender re-assignment should not be given out either, or breast enlargement or reduction.

As for my own personal experiences, I've got nothing but good things to say, I've only had positive experiences.


You are so so wrong on the gender reassignment bit.


One Ugandan woman eh?

 

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Quote nickgusset at 14 Aug 2015 7.25pm

Quote fed up eagle at 14 Aug 2015 7.19pm

Yep the NHS is great no doubt, but don't get me started on health tourism. It's a national health service not an international health service. People flying here to have a baby, as one Ugandan woman did. She should have been turned away, and anyone else who comes here for an operation. These people have never paid into the system yet expect treatment, f*** them!

I also agree that gender re-assignment should not be given out either, or breast enlargement or reduction.

As for my own personal experiences, I've got nothing but good things to say, I've only had positive experiences.


You are so so wrong on the gender reassignment bit.


One Ugandan woman eh? [


Well I've heard of plenty of others but that story stood out in my mind as I thought you weren't allowed to fly when so many months pregnant, is that not so?

Why am I wrong on the gender reassignment Nick? I'm not the only one who thinks that on here, you got something to tell us Nick, or should that be Nicola ?

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Quote nickgusset at 14 Aug 2015 7.23pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 14 Aug 2015 6.29pm

You know Nick, I want the NHS to stay a public institution. But I would like it run efficiently and for the benefit of British people. Some peripheral areas perhaps could be farmed out to private facilities. It should stop being regarded as a totally sacred cow with any change being resisted and with the answer to any problem being throw more money at it.


What percentage of NHS nurses and doctors are immigrants?
They're propping the NHS up.


Where's the drive for nurses training in the UK? Am I correct when I say we need midwives? Overseas workers are filling gaps because we haven't got the people to fill them.

Rightly or wrongly, being a nurse involves getting a degree, which in turn equals fees and student loans. Many people don't want such a debt burden, especially if they want a house too.


This is a great book if your interested...


We did have them and they got rid of thousands of them and I even remember within past 10 years people training to do the job to be told they wont get a job.

A lot of nhs staff work for private companies as well.

the nhs major problem has always been not enough £ even has been been pointed out by other country medical boards how little the nhs has to spend for the coverage it has to provide.

 

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legaleagle Flag 14 Aug 15 8.23pm

According to the BMA:

"Recent research suggests that people coming from overseas to receive healthcare in the UK actually provide valuable revenue for the NHS. A study by the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine and University of York5 shows that in 2010-11,18 NHS trusts made £43 million in combined income from overseas visitors paying for their treatment. In this 12 month period, 52,000 people who entered the UK declared that seeking healthcare was the primary reason for their visit. By contrast, the Government’s latest research estimates that the number of people coming to the UK for free healthcare is currently between 5,000-20,000 per year. By this measure, the number paying for treatment is more than double that receiving it free, meaning that the NHS is very likely to be making a net profit from treating non-UK patients."

According to the BBC:

NHS "health tourism" includes "students, workers on visas, tourists, immigrants, expats popping back to see their old GP and yes "health tourists".

There are arrangements to reclaim those costs from countries in the European Economic Area and from countries like Australia and New Zealand".

 

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