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jamiemartin721 Reading 06 Sep 15 3.59pm
Quote elgrande at 04 Sep 2015 6.45pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 04 Sep 2015 1.56pm Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 04 Sep 2015 1.40pm Quote Willo at 04 Sep 2015 1.26pm Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 04 Sep 2015 12.45pm How many refugees will come and when will this crisis abate ? The bottom line is that the World as it is now will produce an almost endless stream of refugees and migrants seeking refuge or a better life in Europe. How many can we or should we take ? ? The Government has announced that it will take in more refugees from Syria. The problem is that as things evolve there will be cries for more and from more places. This could be the thin end of the wedge. I see it simply. Britain and indeed Europe is finite in terms of capacity for people. This is not so much about land but resources. The potential for migration from Africa, Asia and indeed South America is virtually infinite in the future. Do we close the drawbridge sooner while we don't have a crisis or later when we already do ? We can't "save" everyone. Actually, this isn't true at all, provided we change the ruling on economic and working migration. If we do, its perfectly achievable. Last year, there were 24,914 asylum applications. That's actually less than the number of people who emigrate from the UK each year (323,000 last year). So its perfectly sustainable The highest ever recorded Asylum application level was 2002, when 84,193 people applied for asylum. Success rates on Asylum are 41% of applications being granted. So in terms of Asylum we have a very large capacity to adjust. UK migration has never been about Refugees and Asylum, economic and EU zone migration is where the problems may lie. 42% of migration to the UK is from the EU zone, only five percent is from Asylum (and we're the 5th biggest accepter of Asylum in the UK). The problem of the UK isn't Asylum, even if we'd accepted all 84193 people in 2002, it would still have been a net loss on the number of people who left the UK that year. What we need to do, is restrict EU working migration and working visas into the UK, which are used by companies to drive down wages. Been saying that since the whole thing was introduced. But Asylum hasn't ever really been a problem for the UK. are there any facts or studies to find out what 323.000 who supposedly left the Uk,are originally from. Are they all British or a lot of EU/or other nations peoples going back home. Around 150,000 emigrate each year are British citizens. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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How many refugees will come and when will this crisis abate ? The bottom line is that the World as it is now will produce an almost endless stream of refugees and migrants seeking refuge or a better life in Europe. How many can we or should we take ? ?

The Government has announced that it will take in more refugees from Syria. The problem is that as things evolve there will be cries for more and from more places. This could be the thin end of the wedge.

I see it simply. Britain and indeed Europe is finite in terms of capacity for people. This is not so much about land but resources. The potential for migration from Africa, Asia and indeed South America is virtually infinite in the future. Do we close the drawbridge sooner while we don't have a crisis or later when we already do ?
We can't "save" everyone.

Actually, this isn't true at all, provided we change the ruling on economic and working migration. If we do, its perfectly achievable. Last year, there were 24,914 asylum applications. That's actually less than the number of people who emigrate from the UK each year (323,000 last year). So its perfectly sustainable

The highest ever recorded Asylum application level was 2002, when 84,193 people applied for asylum.

Success rates on Asylum are 41% of applications being granted. So in terms of Asylum we have a very large capacity to adjust.

UK migration has never been about Refugees and Asylum, economic and EU zone migration is where the problems may lie. 42% of migration to the UK is from the EU zone, only five percent is from Asylum (and we're the 5th biggest accepter of Asylum in the UK).

The problem of the UK isn't Asylum, even if we'd accepted all 84193 people in 2002, it would still have been a net loss on the number of people who left the UK that year.

What we need to do, is restrict EU working migration and working visas into the UK, which are used by companies to drive down wages. Been saying that since the whole thing was introduced.

But Asylum hasn't ever really been a problem for the UK.

are there any facts or studies to find out what 323.000 who supposedly left the Uk,are originally from.
Are they all British or a lot of EU/or other nations peoples going back home.

Around 150,000 emigrate each year are British citizens.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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elgrande bedford 06 Sep 15 5.49pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 06 Sep 2015 3.59pm Quote elgrande at 04 Sep 2015 6.45pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 04 Sep 2015 1.56pm Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 04 Sep 2015 1.40pm Quote Willo at 04 Sep 2015 1.26pm Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 04 Sep 2015 12.45pm How many refugees will come and when will this crisis abate ? The bottom line is that the World as it is now will produce an almost endless stream of refugees and migrants seeking refuge or a better life in Europe. How many can we or should we take ? ? The Government has announced that it will take in more refugees from Syria. The problem is that as things evolve there will be cries for more and from more places. This could be the thin end of the wedge. I see it simply. Britain and indeed Europe is finite in terms of capacity for people. This is not so much about land but resources. The potential for migration from Africa, Asia and indeed South America is virtually infinite in the future. Do we close the drawbridge sooner while we don't have a crisis or later when we already do ? We can't "save" everyone. Actually, this isn't true at all, provided we change the ruling on economic and working migration. If we do, its perfectly achievable. Last year, there were 24,914 asylum applications. That's actually less than the number of people who emigrate from the UK each year (323,000 last year). So its perfectly sustainable The highest ever recorded Asylum application level was 2002, when 84,193 people applied for asylum. Success rates on Asylum are 41% of applications being granted. So in terms of Asylum we have a very large capacity to adjust. UK migration has never been about Refugees and Asylum, economic and EU zone migration is where the problems may lie. 42% of migration to the UK is from the EU zone, only five percent is from Asylum (and we're the 5th biggest accepter of Asylum in the UK). The problem of the UK isn't Asylum, even if we'd accepted all 84193 people in 2002, it would still have been a net loss on the number of people who left the UK that year. What we need to do, is restrict EU working migration and working visas into the UK, which are used by companies to drive down wages. Been saying that since the whole thing was introduced. But Asylum hasn't ever really been a problem for the UK. are there any facts or studies to find out what 323.000 who supposedly left the Uk,are originally from. Are they all British or a lot of EU/or other nations peoples going back home. Around 150,000 emigrate each year are British citizens. Well according to Migration watch........it was just under 49.000 last year. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 06 Sep 2015 3.59pm

Quote elgrande at 04 Sep 2015 6.45pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 04 Sep 2015 1.56pm

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 04 Sep 2015 1.40pm

Quote Willo at 04 Sep 2015 1.26pm

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 04 Sep 2015 12.45pm

The highest ever recorded Asylum application level was 2002, when 84,193 people applied for asylum.

Success rates on Asylum are 41% of applications being granted. So in terms of Asylum we have a very large capacity to adjust.

The problem of the UK isn't Asylum, even if we'd accepted all 84193 people in 2002, it would still have been a net loss on the number of people who left the UK that year.

What we need to do, is restrict EU working migration and working visas into the UK, which are used by companies to drive down wages. Been saying that since the whole thing was introduced.

But Asylum hasn't ever really been a problem for the UK.

are there any facts or studies to find out what 323.000 who supposedly left the Uk,are originally from.
Are they all British or a lot of EU/or other nations peoples going back home.

Around 150,000 emigrate each year are British citizens.

Well according to Migration watch........it was just under 49.000 last year.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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legaleagle 06 Sep 15 5.58pm
According to the ONS,Jamie's figure is correct.A migrant being someone coming or leaving here for 12 months or more. ONS figures also indicated that about 80,000 of the "immigrants" who came here in 2014 were Brits. [Link]
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According to the ONS,Jamie's figure is correct.A migrant being someone coming or leaving here for 12 months or more.

ONS figures also indicated that about 80,000 of the "immigrants" who came here in 2014 were Brits.

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