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View Boooo's Profile Boooo Flag 27 Nov 15 8.04pm Send a Private Message to Boooo Add Boooo as a friend

Whatever the right or wrongs in people's eyes, i have never voted in the near 32 years i've been allowed. I have an opinion and because of that, i just don't vote. I don't even want to protest vote, i personally see no point in it.
Anyhow. I have received a numerous letters from my local Council culminating in a warning of an £80 fine if i refuse to register. Having had a letter from the same Council telling me that if i didn't register, i would lose my right to vote, a fact i accepted until today.
Does anyone know if i can refuse outright, even have the right to refuse?

I'm not after the right and wrongs of not voting, just validity of my question.

Cheers.

 


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View leifandersonshair's Profile leifandersonshair Flag Newport 27 Nov 15 8.57pm Send a Private Message to leifandersonshair Add leifandersonshair as a friend

Voting is not compulsory; not sure about registering though. Seems a bit Big Brother being forced to register, when you have no intention of using your vote.

 

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View becky's Profile becky Flag over the moon 27 Nov 15 8.59pm Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

You are not legally required to register to vote, but your local authority has the right to impose a penalty on you if you fail to do so:-

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Now, how bonkers is that?......

 


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View rob1969's Profile rob1969 Flag Banstead Surrey 27 Nov 15 9.11pm Send a Private Message to rob1969 Add rob1969 as a friend

Quote Boooo at 27 Nov 2015 8.04pm

Whatever the right or wrongs in people's eyes, i have never voted in the near 32 years i've been allowed. I have an opinion and because of that, i just don't vote. I don't even want to protest vote, i personally see no point in it.
Anyhow. I have received a numerous letters from my local Council culminating in a warning of an £80 fine if i refuse to register. Having had a letter from the same Council telling me that if i didn't register, i would lose my right to vote, a fact i accepted until today.
Does anyone know if i can refuse outright, even have the right to refuse?

I'm not after the right and wrongs of not voting, just validity of my question.

Cheers.

Believe the system regarding registration on the electoral role has changed whereby individuals must now register rather the 'head of the household' registering all in the household. It is a requirement to register - although not (in the UK) to vote. You can also indicate that you do not wish to appear on the short version - often used by other than the local authority. You can be fined for non registration although I only just realised that myself. (e&eo)!

 

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View johnfirewall's Profile johnfirewall Flag 27 Nov 15 10.15pm Send a Private Message to johnfirewall Add johnfirewall as a friend

'Do what you want, you tedious cnuts' is what comes to mind every election when people start to bang on about spoiling ballots etc. Same self righteous cnuts who bang on about their choice not to show solidarity after terrorist attacks or take part in other online campaigns.

 

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Catfish Flag Burgess Hill 28 Nov 15 9.27am

I do wonder if I will bother next time. If I don't, it would be the first time in any election since I was first eligible. Labour are unelectable, the Lib Dems have happily settled back into their traditional irrelevance. The Tories are odious as ever and I have the added disincentive of having Nicholas Soames as MP. That leaves the nutters or, in deference to Jeremy Corbyn, I should say the other nutters.
I never used to support PR because I felt that, whatever it's faults, the system usually resulted in more decisive results and stronger government. It now appears that we have a system where a huge proportion of the electorate are either disenfranchised. That cannot be good. PR has the effect of making more votes count. Referendum needed.

 


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View MKCPFC's Profile MKCPFC Flag Spain/MK 28 Nov 15 10.17am Send a Private Message to MKCPFC Add MKCPFC as a friend

I suspect that if you lived in a dictatorship you would want the right to vote.

I think that they want you on the electoral role so they can calculate budgets / services required to cater for the people they are serving.
Is is that difficult to do ?

 

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View Kermit8's Profile Kermit8 Flag Hevon 28 Nov 15 10.22am Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Burma has just spent the last 25 years for the right to vote and many other countries have to put up with fixed elections.

Not something to be taken for granted what we have in the UK.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 28 Nov 15 10.25am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Have a look at this :

The law makes it compulsory to provide information to an electoral registration officer for inclusion in the full register. The details you are likely to have to provide are your name, address, national insurance number, nationality and age.

The full register is published once a year and is updated every month. It is used by electoral registration officers and returning officers across the country for purposes related to elections and referendums. Political parties, MPs and public libraries also have the full register.

It is also used by local authorities for their duties relating to security, law enforcement and crime prevention, for example checking entitlement to council tax discount or housing benefit. It may also be used by the police for law enforcement purposes. The courts use the register to summon people for jury service.

It can be sold to government departments to help in their duties such as the prevention or detection of crime. They can also use it for vetting job applicants and employees if this is required by law. Credit reference agencies are allowed to buy the full version of the register so that lenders can check the names and addresses of people applying for credit and carry out identity checks to help stop money laundering.

It is a crime for anyone who has a copy of the full register to pass information from this register onto others if they do not have a lawful reason to see it.

So it's not just about voting.

Edited by Willo (28 Nov 2015 10.31am)

 

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Hoof Hearted 28 Nov 15 10.29am

Quote becky at 27 Nov 2015 8.59pm

You are not legally required to register to vote, but your local authority has the right to impose a penalty on you if you fail to do so:-

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Now, how bonkers is that?......


That is a bit strange?

But as Kermit quite rightly points out, places like Burma highlight how lucky we are to have our system of voting, yet some people don't appreciate it.... that is the strangest thing.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 28 Nov 15 9.04pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 28 Nov 2015 10.29am

Quote becky at 27 Nov 2015 8.59pm

You are not legally required to register to vote, but your local authority has the right to impose a penalty on you if you fail to do so:-

[Link]

Now, how bonkers is that?......


That is a bit strange?

But as Kermit quite rightly points out, places like Burma highlight how lucky we are to have our system of voting, yet some people don't appreciate it.... that is the strangest thing.

Our system of voting is an improvement on Burma, definitely, it returns one of two parties, in my lifetime of 44 years, that have prioritised business interests over that of voters, and essentially rigged the electorial boundaries to their own favour, in a system where one party can return 8% of the vote, and win 12 seats, whilst a party that polls 18% of the vote wins one seat.

So appreciate it, not really, its not really a democracy when only about 60% of the votes actually matter.


 


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View Cucking Funt's Profile Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 29 Nov 15 12.25pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Quote jamiemartin721 at 28 Nov 2015 9.04pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 28 Nov 2015 10.29am

Quote becky at 27 Nov 2015 8.59pm

You are not legally required to register to vote, but your local authority has the right to impose a penalty on you if you fail to do so:-

[Link]

Now, how bonkers is that?......


That is a bit strange?

But as Kermit quite rightly points out, places like Burma highlight how lucky we are to have our system of voting, yet some people don't appreciate it.... that is the strangest thing.

Our system of voting is an improvement on Burma, definitely, it returns one of two parties, in my lifetime of 44 years, that have prioritised business interests over that of voters, and essentially rigged the electorial boundaries to their own favour, in a system where one party can return 8% of the vote, and win 12 seats, whilst a party that polls 18% of the vote wins one seat.

So appreciate it, not really, its not really a democracy when only about 60% of the votes actually matter.



True. And if you're a Tory living in a safe Labour seat or vice versa, your vote is effectively valueless.

 


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