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We are goin up! Coulsdon 16 Dec 15 5.01pm
Quote SeagullHunter at 16 Dec 2015 4.16pm Quote We are goin up! at 16 Dec 2015 2.02pm We haven't had austerity. Smoke and mirrors. Deficit and public spending still too high. Blinded by selfishness. Good argument The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.
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We haven't had austerity. Smoke and mirrors. Deficit and public spending still too high.

Blinded by selfishness.

Good argument

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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SeagullHunter Reading 16 Dec 15 5.42pm
Quote We are goin up! at 16 Dec 2015 5.01pm Quote SeagullHunter at 16 Dec 2015 4.16pm Quote We are goin up! at 16 Dec 2015 2.02pm We haven't had austerity. Smoke and mirrors. Deficit and public spending still too high. Blinded by selfishness. Good argument Really isn't worth arguing my point with a narrow-minded right-winger such as yourself. Sadly you place a thriving economy ahead of a poor family. I dont blame you, brainwashed like many, and that isnt your fault. Dont let Cabaye go
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Quote We are goin up! at 16 Dec 2015 5.01pm

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Quote We are goin up! at 16 Dec 2015 2.02pm

We haven't had austerity. Smoke and mirrors. Deficit and public spending still too high.

Blinded by selfishness.

Good argument

Really isn't worth arguing my point with a narrow-minded right-winger such as yourself. Sadly you place a thriving economy ahead of a poor family. I dont blame you, brainwashed like many, and that isnt your fault.

Dont let Cabaye go

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NickRobinson 16 Dec 15 8.36pm
Quote SeagullHunter at 16 Dec 2015 5.42pm Quote We are goin up! at 16 Dec 2015 5.01pm Quote SeagullHunter at 16 Dec 2015 4.16pm Quote We are goin up! at 16 Dec 2015 2.02pm We haven't had austerity. Smoke and mirrors. Deficit and public spending still too high. Blinded by selfishness. Good argument Really isn't worth arguing my point with a narrow-minded right-winger such as yourself. Sadly you place a thriving economy ahead of a poor family. I dont blame you, brainwashed like many, and that isnt your fault. There would be loads more poor families without a thriving economy.
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16 Dec 15 8.36pm

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Quote We are goin up! at 16 Dec 2015 2.02pm

We haven't had austerity. Smoke and mirrors. Deficit and public spending still too high.

Blinded by selfishness.

Good argument

There would be loads more poor families without a thriving economy.

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-TUX- Alphabettispaghetti 16 Dec 15 8.47pm
Austerity Works Mistakes(?) made by the rich are always paid for by the poor. And again, the rich are getting richer. Yep, ''austerity'' IS SADLY still working. Time to move forward together.
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Austerity Works

Mistakes(?) made by the rich are always paid for by the poor. And again, the rich are getting richer.

Yep, ''austerity'' IS SADLY still working.

Time to move forward together.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 17 Dec 15 12.41am
Quote NickRobinson at 16 Dec 2015 8.36pm Quote SeagullHunter at 16 Dec 2015 5.42pm Quote We are goin up! at 16 Dec 2015 5.01pm Quote SeagullHunter at 16 Dec 2015 4.16pm Quote We are goin up! at 16 Dec 2015 2.02pm We haven't had austerity. Smoke and mirrors. Deficit and public spending still too high. Blinded by selfishness. Good argument Really isn't worth arguing my point with a narrow-minded right-winger such as yourself. Sadly you place a thriving economy ahead of a poor family. I dont blame you, brainwashed like many, and that isnt your fault. There would be loads more poor families without a thriving economy. Are you deliberately quoting Cameron's responses in pmq's this week, or is it subconscious osmosis?
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Shizzlehurst 17 Dec 15 12.41am

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Quote We are goin up! at 16 Dec 2015 2.02pm

We haven't had austerity. Smoke and mirrors. Deficit and public spending still too high.

Blinded by selfishness.

Good argument

There would be loads more poor families without a thriving economy.

Are you deliberately quoting Cameron's responses in pmq's this week, or is it subconscious osmosis?

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Pussay Patrol 17 Dec 15 8.21am
Quote nickgusset at 17 Dec 2015 12.41am Quote NickRobinson at 16 Dec 2015 8.36pm Quote SeagullHunter at 16 Dec 2015 5.42pm Quote We are goin up! at 16 Dec 2015 5.01pm Quote SeagullHunter at 16 Dec 2015 4.16pm Quote We are goin up! at 16 Dec 2015 2.02pm We haven't had austerity. Smoke and mirrors. Deficit and public spending still too high. Blinded by selfishness. Good argument Really isn't worth arguing my point with a narrow-minded right-winger such as yourself. Sadly you place a thriving economy ahead of a poor family. I dont blame you, brainwashed like many, and that isnt your fault. There would be loads more poor families without a thriving economy. Are you deliberately quoting Cameron's responses in pmq's this week, or is it subconscious osmosis? Cos obviously the right way to help poorer people is to have a lavish welfare free for all and run up a huge defecit to pay for it? Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah
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Quote We are goin up! at 16 Dec 2015 2.02pm

We haven't had austerity. Smoke and mirrors. Deficit and public spending still too high.

Blinded by selfishness.

Good argument

There would be loads more poor families without a thriving economy.

Are you deliberately quoting Cameron's responses in pmq's this week, or is it subconscious osmosis?

Cos obviously the right way to help poorer people is to have a lavish welfare free for all and run up a huge defecit to pay for it?

Paua oouaarancì Irà chiyeah Ishé galé ma ba oo ah

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 17 Dec 15 8.55am
Quote Pussay Patrol at 17 Dec 2015 8.21am Quote nickgusset at 17 Dec 2015 12.41am Quote NickRobinson at 16 Dec 2015 8.36pm Quote SeagullHunter at 16 Dec 2015 5.42pm Quote We are goin up! at 16 Dec 2015 5.01pm Quote SeagullHunter at 16 Dec 2015 4.16pm Quote We are goin up! at 16 Dec 2015 2.02pm We haven't had austerity. Smoke and mirrors. Deficit and public spending still too high. Blinded by selfishness. Good argument Really isn't worth arguing my point with a narrow-minded right-winger such as yourself. Sadly you place a thriving economy ahead of a poor family. I dont blame you, brainwashed like many, and that isnt your fault. There would be loads more poor families without a thriving economy. Are you deliberately quoting Cameron's responses in pmq's this week, or is it subconscious osmosis? Cos obviously the right way to help poorer people is to have a lavish welfare free for all and run up a huge defecit to pay for it? Lavish? Wow.
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Shizzlehurst 17 Dec 15 8.55am

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Quote nickgusset at 17 Dec 2015 12.41am

Quote NickRobinson at 16 Dec 2015 8.36pm

Quote SeagullHunter at 16 Dec 2015 5.42pm

Quote We are goin up! at 16 Dec 2015 5.01pm

Quote SeagullHunter at 16 Dec 2015 4.16pm

Quote We are goin up! at 16 Dec 2015 2.02pm

We haven't had austerity. Smoke and mirrors. Deficit and public spending still too high.

Blinded by selfishness.

Good argument

There would be loads more poor families without a thriving economy.

Are you deliberately quoting Cameron's responses in pmq's this week, or is it subconscious osmosis?

Cos obviously the right way to help poorer people is to have a lavish welfare free for all and run up a huge defecit to pay for it?

Lavish? Wow.

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We are goin up! Coulsdon 17 Dec 15 9.03am
Quote SeagullHunter at 16 Dec 2015 5.42pm Quote We are goin up! at 16 Dec 2015 5.01pm Quote SeagullHunter at 16 Dec 2015 4.16pm Quote We are goin up! at 16 Dec 2015 2.02pm We haven't had austerity. Smoke and mirrors. Deficit and public spending still too high. Blinded by selfishness. Good argument Really isn't worth arguing my point with a narrow-minded right-winger such as yourself. Sadly you place a thriving economy ahead of a poor family. I dont blame you, brainwashed like many, and that isnt your fault. Hahaha. The small minded one is the one that wishes to debate, apparently. What a prat. The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.
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Coulsdon 17 Dec 15 9.03am

Quote SeagullHunter at 16 Dec 2015 5.42pm

Quote We are goin up! at 16 Dec 2015 5.01pm

Quote SeagullHunter at 16 Dec 2015 4.16pm

Quote We are goin up! at 16 Dec 2015 2.02pm

We haven't had austerity. Smoke and mirrors. Deficit and public spending still too high.

Blinded by selfishness.

Good argument

Hahaha. The small minded one is the one that wishes to debate, apparently. What a prat.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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Ketteridge Brighton 17 Dec 15 10.13am
Depends how you look at it, people in work is at the highest level since records began in 1971 but unemployment is only just returning to levels of 2008. GDP has grown but GDP per capita is still below 2008 levels. The jobs that have been created have largely been unskilled. Median income has remained the same last year making people worse off in real terms and the top income decile have increased their income further in comparison. Public sector works have had their pay frozen for the next 4 years which means any rise in inflation will result in roughly a quarter or the work force being significantly worse off. In real terms homelessness and use of food banks has rocketed and levels of working people in poverty has hit record levels. Oh and national debts is up. One supporter of hacking argued that without it "you will do away with the courage and pluck of the game, and I will be bound to bring over a lot of Frenchmen who would beat you with a week's practice -Blackheath secretary at first meeting of the F.A
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Brighton 17 Dec 15 10.13am

Depends how you look at it, people in work is at the highest level since records began in 1971 but unemployment is only just returning to levels of 2008. GDP has grown but GDP per capita is still below 2008 levels.
The jobs that have been created have largely been unskilled. Median income has remained the same last year making people worse off in real terms and the top income decile have increased their income further in comparison.
Public sector works have had their pay frozen for the next 4 years which means any rise in inflation will result in roughly a quarter or the work force being significantly worse off.
In real terms homelessness and use of food banks has rocketed and levels of working people in poverty has hit record levels.
Oh and national debts is up.

One supporter of hacking argued that without it "you will do away with the courage and pluck of the game, and I will be bound to bring over a lot of Frenchmen who would beat you with a week's practice -Blackheath secretary at first meeting of the F.A

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We are goin up! Coulsdon 17 Dec 15 11.09am
Quote Ketteridge at 17 Dec 2015 10.13am Depends how you look at it, people in work is at the highest level since records began in 1971 but unemployment is only just returning to levels of 2008. GDP has grown but GDP per capita is still below 2008 levels. The jobs that have been created have largely been unskilled. Median income has remained the same last year making people worse off in real terms and the top income decile have increased their income further in comparison. Public sector works have had their pay frozen for the next 4 years which means any rise in inflation will result in roughly a quarter or the work force being significantly worse off. In real terms homelessness and use of food banks has rocketed and levels of working people in poverty has hit record levels. Oh and national debts is up. Not really since there's been no inflation, in fact the essentials like fuel and food have fallen in price. Food bank use has rocketed because those nasty Tories changed legislation to allow job centres to direct people to them. It's also something to be proud of that we as a country provide charity like this off our own backs, rather than expecting the state to be the source of charity instead. National debt is up, you're right. Because the deficit hasn't really been dealt with, which is because we haven't really had austerity. Osborne has somehow duped the markets (and the public) into thinking we have and that he's economically responsible. The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.
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We are goin up!

Coulsdon 17 Dec 15 11.09am

Quote Ketteridge at 17 Dec 2015 10.13am

Depends how you look at it, people in work is at the highest level since records began in 1971 but unemployment is only just returning to levels of 2008. GDP has grown but GDP per capita is still below 2008 levels.
The jobs that have been created have largely been unskilled. Median income has remained the same last year making people worse off in real terms and the top income decile have increased their income further in comparison.
Public sector works have had their pay frozen for the next 4 years which means any rise in inflation will result in roughly a quarter or the work force being significantly worse off.
In real terms homelessness and use of food banks has rocketed and levels of working people in poverty has hit record levels.
Oh and national debts is up.

Not really since there's been no inflation, in fact the essentials like fuel and food have fallen in price.

Food bank use has rocketed because those nasty Tories changed legislation to allow job centres to direct people to them. It's also something to be proud of that we as a country provide charity like this off our own backs, rather than expecting the state to be the source of charity instead.

National debt is up, you're right. Because the deficit hasn't really been dealt with, which is because we haven't really had austerity. Osborne has somehow duped the markets (and the public) into thinking we have and that he's economically responsible.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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Hoof Hearted 17 Dec 15 11.36am
Quote -TUX- at 16 Dec 2015 8.47pm Austerity Works Mistakes(?) made by the rich are always paid for by the poor. And again, the rich are getting richer. Yep, ''austerity'' IS SADLY still working. Try singing this chorus TUX.... It's the same the whole world over, It's the poor what gets the blame, It's the rich what gets the pleasure, Ain't it a blooming shame? [Link] Edited by Hoof Hearted (17 Dec 2015 11.38am)
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Quote -TUX- at 16 Dec 2015 8.47pm

Austerity Works

Mistakes(?) made by the rich are always paid for by the poor. And again, the rich are getting richer.

Yep, ''austerity'' IS SADLY still working.

Try singing this chorus TUX....

It's the same the whole world over,
It's the poor what gets the blame,
It's the rich what gets the pleasure,
Ain't it a blooming shame?

[Link]

Edited by Hoof Hearted (17 Dec 2015 11.38am)

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silvertop Portishead 17 Dec 15 11.52am
We were unfavourably hit by the 2008 crisis because our economy is so heavily geared towards finance. We have been favourably blessed by the recovery as it was that sector that has made the biggest adjustment. Control over public spending has improved or credit rating and is one of many factors that has led to where we are now. However, the OP stating that the tight budget is the cause of low unemployment does not suggest a very savvy grip on the complexities of economics. Best stick to football.
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silvertop

Portishead 17 Dec 15 11.52am

We were unfavourably hit by the 2008 crisis because our economy is so heavily geared towards finance. We have been favourably blessed by the recovery as it was that sector that has made the biggest adjustment.

Control over public spending has improved or credit rating and is one of many factors that has led to where we are now.

However, the OP stating that the tight budget is the cause of low unemployment does not suggest a very savvy grip on the complexities of economics.

Best stick to football.

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