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black eagle. south croydon. 29 Dec 15 6.45pm
As far as centre backs go i'd also look at signing Grant Hanley from Blackburn. why? He was scott Danns defensive partner at Blackburn and i think he is 23 and a scottish international so like Caulker would have time to improve and is at the right age.
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south croydon. 29 Dec 15 6.45pm

As far as centre backs go i'd also look at signing Grant Hanley from Blackburn.

why? He was scott Danns defensive partner at Blackburn and i think he is 23 and a scottish international so like Caulker would have time to improve and is at the right age.

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martin2412 Living The Dream 29 Dec 15 6.49pm
Quote Andy_G at 29 Dec 2015 5.59pm Quote sydtheeagle at 29 Dec 2015 4.33pm Quote Andy_G at 29 Dec 2015 3.39pm When we signed Damo and Bolasie when were near the bottom of the Championship. Aren't we looking for a bit more proven quality now? If he signs and plays well fantastic, I think he has been poor for a while now and is a big gamble. How can you call him a "big gamble" when you have no idea what he'll cost? If we get him for a small fee, he's not going to be a gamble at all, is he? Damo made his debut for us on October 4th 2012 against Burnley. The win took us to fourth place in the table. Is that "near the bottom" of the Championship these days? Caulker is a former international and once very high quality prospect whose career has been derailed by playing for two simply awful clubs under clueless owners and managers. Yes, he hasn't shone. Want to name a single Cardiff or QPR player who has recently? The worst that can be said of him is that he's made some pretty poor decisions about who to join. Plus, he's still young. OK, he hasn't displaced Van Dijk or Fonte at Southampton but they're both quality players; that doesn't tell us he's not any good. There is everything to like here. Experienced, talented, the right age but career a bit off track. He has exactly the sort of profile that often succeeds at Palace and he's really not likely to cost an awful lot. He may not cost a large transfer fee but you can be sure after being signed by Redknapp at QPR he'll be on big wages. A 3 year deal on big wages after several poor seasons and may never get off the bench is what I call a big gamble. Perhaps he'll come and be great. He is on big wages. That was the reason he didn't join us when he joined QPR. The way I see it is if we weren't good enough then, then he can go feck himself now. Looks like he wants a part of it now that we're successful.
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martin2412

Living The Dream 29 Dec 15 6.49pm

Quote Andy_G at 29 Dec 2015 5.59pm

Quote sydtheeagle at 29 Dec 2015 4.33pm

Quote Andy_G at 29 Dec 2015 3.39pm

When we signed Damo and Bolasie when were near the bottom of the Championship. Aren't we looking for a bit more proven quality now? If he signs and plays well fantastic, I think he has been poor for a while now and is a big gamble.

How can you call him a "big gamble" when you have no idea what he'll cost? If we get him for a small fee, he's not going to be a gamble at all, is he?

Damo made his debut for us on October 4th 2012 against Burnley. The win took us to fourth place in the table. Is that "near the bottom" of the Championship these days?

Caulker is a former international and once very high quality prospect whose career has been derailed by playing for two simply awful clubs under clueless owners and managers. Yes, he hasn't shone. Want to name a single Cardiff or QPR player who has recently? The worst that can be said of him is that he's made some pretty poor decisions about who to join. Plus, he's still young. OK, he hasn't displaced Van Dijk or Fonte at Southampton but they're both quality players; that doesn't tell us he's not any good.

There is everything to like here. Experienced, talented, the right age but career a bit off track. He has exactly the sort of profile that often succeeds at Palace and he's really not likely to cost an awful lot.

He may not cost a large transfer fee but you can be sure after being signed by Redknapp at QPR he'll be on big wages. A 3 year deal on big wages after several poor seasons and may never get off the bench is what I call a big gamble. Perhaps he'll come and be great.

He is on big wages. That was the reason he didn't join us when he joined QPR. The way I see it is if we weren't good enough then, then he can go feck himself now. Looks like he wants a part of it now that we're successful.

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Stuart Shave Hampshire 29 Dec 15 7.01pm
He was a decent player at Cardiff, but then Redknapp got his hands on him - offered him to much and the rest as they say is history! Hopefully he 's learnt his lesson, and if Pardew went for him I'd be extremely confident that he could get him back to the form of his Cardiff days and make him the ideal and partner for Dann.
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Stuart Shave

Hampshire 29 Dec 15 7.01pm

He was a decent player at Cardiff, but then Redknapp got his hands on him - offered him to much and the rest as they say is history! Hopefully he 's learnt his lesson, and if Pardew went for him I'd be extremely confident that he could get him back to the form of his Cardiff days and make him the ideal and partner for Dann.

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EagleinSF San Fransisco 29 Dec 15 9.23pm
Quote OllieMaidstoneEagle at 29 Dec 2015 12.38pm Caulker has been his usual poor standard in the couple of games I've seen for The Saints.the 6-1 loss at St, Marys vs. Liverpool in the cup(at fault for 3 goals)he was shocking,Man City 3-1 loss(as sub)at fault for last goal. Been on the bench a few times. Consistently poor overthe last 3 seasons or so! Ollie's Dad,Ash. This. Relegated in the worst defense with Cardif, followed it up with the same at QPR (after turning us down) and not doing that well at the Saints...
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San Fransisco 29 Dec 15 9.23pm

Quote OllieMaidstoneEagle at 29 Dec 2015 12.38pm

Caulker has been his usual poor standard in the couple of games I've seen for The Saints.the 6-1 loss at St, Marys vs. Liverpool in the cup(at fault for 3 goals)he was shocking,Man City 3-1 loss(as sub)at fault for last goal. Been on the bench a few times. Consistently poor overthe last 3 seasons or so! Ollie's Dad,Ash.

This. Relegated in the worst defense with Cardif, followed it up with the same at QPR (after turning us down) and not doing that well at the Saints...

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Booted Eagle Bristol 30 Dec 15 9.20am
Quote martin2412 at 29 Dec 2015 6.49pm Quote Andy_G at 29 Dec 2015 5.59pm Quote sydtheeagle at 29 Dec 2015 4.33pm Quote Andy_G at 29 Dec 2015 3.39pm When we signed Damo and Bolasie when were near the bottom of the Championship. Aren't we looking for a bit more proven quality now? If he signs and plays well fantastic, I think he has been poor for a while now and is a big gamble. How can you call him a "big gamble" when you have no idea what he'll cost? If we get him for a small fee, he's not going to be a gamble at all, is he? Damo made his debut for us on October 4th 2012 against Burnley. The win took us to fourth place in the table. Is that "near the bottom" of the Championship these days? Caulker is a former international and once very high quality prospect whose career has been derailed by playing for two simply awful clubs under clueless owners and managers. Yes, he hasn't shone. Want to name a single Cardiff or QPR player who has recently? The worst that can be said of him is that he's made some pretty poor decisions about who to join. Plus, he's still young. OK, he hasn't displaced Van Dijk or Fonte at Southampton but they're both quality players; that doesn't tell us he's not any good. There is everything to like here. Experienced, talented, the right age but career a bit off track. He has exactly the sort of profile that often succeeds at Palace and he's really not likely to cost an awful lot. He may not cost a large transfer fee but you can be sure after being signed by Redknapp at QPR he'll be on big wages. A 3 year deal on big wages after several poor seasons and may never get off the bench is what I call a big gamble. Perhaps he'll come and be great. He is on big wages. That was the reason he didn't join us when he joined QPR. The way I see it is if we weren't good enough then, then he can go feck himself now. Looks like he wants a part of it now that we're successful. You are probably right. However that shouldn't mean we should not take a look. If Pards rates him and thinks he can work with him then fair enough. There will be a number of quality players who would of not taken a punt with us in the past. This, like the new investment etc. shows how far the club have come recently and be seen as a positive. “ [T]here are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ” —United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld
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Bristol 30 Dec 15 9.20am

Quote martin2412 at 29 Dec 2015 6.49pm

Quote Andy_G at 29 Dec 2015 5.59pm

Quote sydtheeagle at 29 Dec 2015 4.33pm

Quote Andy_G at 29 Dec 2015 3.39pm

How can you call him a "big gamble" when you have no idea what he'll cost? If we get him for a small fee, he's not going to be a gamble at all, is he?

Damo made his debut for us on October 4th 2012 against Burnley. The win took us to fourth place in the table. Is that "near the bottom" of the Championship these days?

He is on big wages. That was the reason he didn't join us when he joined QPR. The way I see it is if we weren't good enough then, then he can go feck himself now. Looks like he wants a part of it now that we're successful.

You are probably right. However that shouldn't mean we should not take a look. If Pards rates him and thinks he can work with him then fair enough. There will be a number of quality players who would of not taken a punt with us in the past. This, like the new investment etc. shows how far the club have come recently and be seen as a positive.

“ [T]here are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ”
—United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld

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Lyons550 Shirley 30 Dec 15 10.28am
Seemingly fits the bill of being a (relatively young) British player that we're looking for. Always thought highly of him but he's never seemingly delivered for one reason or another...we have a knack of bringing the best out of players. A Yes for me Edited by Lyons550 (30 Dec 2015 10.37am) The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World
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Shirley 30 Dec 15 10.28am

Seemingly fits the bill of being a (relatively young) British player that we're looking for. Always thought highly of him but he's never seemingly delivered for one reason or another...we have a knack of bringing the best out of players.

A Yes for me

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iheartcpfc SE25 30 Dec 15 12.43pm
Quote Mozza at 29 Dec 2015 5.00pm There is everything to like here. Experienced, talented, the right age but career a bit off track. He has exactly the sort of profile that often succeeds at Palace and he's really not likely to cost an awful lot. Syd the Eagle is bang-on. Sounds like a perfect Palace signing - isn't this just what Palace is all about - rescue a decent player who has gone astray. Make him good again, he becomes one of us and someone else who loves the club (only got to look at Chamakh as a perfect example). we're not miracle workers. I'd like someone more proven (for once), especially considering how important his position is
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Quote Mozza at 29 Dec 2015 5.00pm

Syd the Eagle is bang-on. Sounds like a perfect Palace signing - isn't this just what Palace is all about - rescue a decent player who has gone astray. Make him good again, he becomes one of us and someone else who loves the club (only got to look at Chamakh as a perfect example).

we're not miracle workers. I'd like someone more proven (for once), especially considering how important his position is

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Joe Bloggs Nr Norwich 30 Dec 15 12.54pm
A NO from me, he lacks decent positional play which is essential for a centre back and tends to be caught flat footed when the ball is in the air..............otherwise quite good
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Joe Bloggs

Nr Norwich 30 Dec 15 12.54pm

A NO from me, he lacks decent positional play which is essential for a centre back and tends to be caught flat footed when the ball is in the air..............otherwise quite good

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Straightbackup Crystal Palace 30 Dec 15 12.54pm
I think it's attitude and not talent as far as he's concerned. I get the impression he's psychologically weak and lacks discipline and concentration. Very difficult to change that. With Dann we have a very very good footballer who has that mental strength. Damo isn't so good on the ball but he's extremely disciplined and humble enough to understand his limitations. If we can get him for around £5-6m it's yes from me, but it's still a gamble 'Impulse' advert- Advertising campaign whose slogan is expected to change in the light of Rajiv Gandhi's assassination: 'If someone you don't know suddenly offers you flowers- run like f***!'
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I think it's attitude and not talent as far as he's concerned. I get the impression he's psychologically weak and lacks discipline and concentration. Very difficult to change that. With Dann we have a very very good footballer who has that mental strength. Damo isn't so good on the ball but he's extremely disciplined and humble enough to understand his limitations.
If we can get him for around £5-6m it's yes from me, but it's still a gamble

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rossboss29 Portsmouth 30 Dec 15 2.16pm
Pretty sure he bas turned us down twice, but personally feel this would be a good move. He is still young and has room to improve and would strenghten our backline. He could form a strong partnership and could learn a lot from dann delaney and hangeland regarding comittment and throwing your body in the way of oncoming shots. This appeals to me more so than the stuttgart defender we were linked with.
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Portsmouth 30 Dec 15 2.16pm

Pretty sure he bas turned us down twice, but personally feel this would be a good move. He is still young and has room to improve and would strenghten our backline. He could form a strong partnership and could learn a lot from dann delaney and hangeland regarding comittment and throwing your body in the way of oncoming shots. This appeals to me more so than the stuttgart defender we were linked with.

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palace99 New Mills 30 Dec 15 2.44pm
we clearly need a younger centre back as whilst excellent DD is getting on a bit (as is Hanngeland) and Caulker fits the bill in many ways, however, i think he's on £60k a week at QPR so that's a massive outlay on wages on a 3 or 4 year contract. Not that many alternatives though - i do like Hanley too, but he lacks a bit of pace which may be an issue in the prem
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New Mills 30 Dec 15 2.44pm

we clearly need a younger centre back as whilst excellent DD is getting on a bit (as is Hanngeland) and Caulker fits the bill in many ways, however, i think he's on £60k a week at QPR so that's a massive outlay on wages on a 3 or 4 year contract.

Not that many alternatives though - i do like Hanley too, but he lacks a bit of pace which may be an issue in the prem

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 30 Dec 15 3.05pm
Quote palace99 at 30 Dec 2015 2.44pm we clearly need a younger centre back as whilst excellent DD is getting on a bit (as is Hanngeland) and Caulker fits the bill in many ways, however, i think he's on £60k a week at QPR so that's a massive outlay on wages on a 3 or 4 year contract. Not that many alternatives though - i do like Hanley too, but he lacks a bit of pace which may be an issue in the prem I assume SP will dangle Prem football with a stable club rather than a team in the bottom 5, or more years stagnating in the Championship. Rumour is we signed Dann on about £35k or less than the £40k per week he was after so you can guess from that that we won't be wanting to pay Caulker £60k. Dann's new contract signed in July, which he has earned, is rumoured to be £65k per week. Caulker is not at that level and the stupidity of QPR is the only reason he is on £60k. If I were SP I would offer, at the most, what we were willing to pay him when he joined QPR. Was it £50k? Or was that the Sigurrdson wage offer? Caulker's transfer value has fallen from £8mil to £5mil because there's an awful lot of work to do. That should be the pitch to his agent. Earn a new contract and you'll get it. Or stay at QPR and run your contract down outside of the Prem. He isn't doing the business in the Prem and to present, hasn't done the business. We have more strength in this negotiation than someone who wants Prem football but either doesn't get picked or hasn't performed. COYP
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Quote palace99 at 30 Dec 2015 2.44pm

Not that many alternatives though - i do like Hanley too, but he lacks a bit of pace which may be an issue in the prem

I assume SP will dangle Prem football with a stable club rather than a team in the bottom 5, or more years stagnating in the Championship. Rumour is we signed Dann on about £35k or less than the £40k per week he was after so you can guess from that that we won't be wanting to pay Caulker £60k.

Dann's new contract signed in July, which he has earned, is rumoured to be £65k per week. Caulker is not at that level and the stupidity of QPR is the only reason he is on £60k. If I were SP I would offer, at the most, what we were willing to pay him when he joined QPR. Was it £50k? Or was that the Sigurrdson wage offer?

Caulker's transfer value has fallen from £8mil to £5mil because there's an awful lot of work to do. That should be the pitch to his agent. Earn a new contract and you'll get it. Or stay at QPR and run your contract down outside of the Prem. He isn't doing the business in the Prem and to present, hasn't done the business. We have more strength in this negotiation than someone who wants Prem football but either doesn't get picked or hasn't performed.

COYP

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