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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 05 Apr 19 5.27pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

I am not comparing us to anyone.

I am just saying that if the reporting is true, and brexit uncertainty has cost us 550 million quid a week (a catchy line to put on a bus??) ......then I could understand that, as uncertainty is kryptonite to investment.

So what exactly has the 500m a week been spent on
Paper clips. Paper. Computers.
I would hazard that most went on employing people which in turn creates wages which in turn creates tax.
So the money spent is at least half of the actual amount if the sums are done.
The other half comes back as tax.
Not so bad if you look at it like that.

 

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View Maine Eagle's Profile Maine Eagle Flag USA 05 Apr 19 6.02pm Send a Private Message to Maine Eagle Add Maine Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

So what exactly has the 500m a week been spent on
Paper clips. Paper. Computers.
I would hazard that most went on employing people which in turn creates wages which in turn creates tax.
So the money spent is at least half of the actual amount if the sums are done.
The other half comes back as tax.
Not so bad if you look at it like that.

I think you are misunderstanding the underlying concept here.

This doesnt mean we spent that money.

It means we didn't grow the economy as much as we should have, which means we lost out on the money coming in to the economy.

 


Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

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View Rubin's Profile Rubin Flag 05 Apr 19 6.39pm Send a Private Message to Rubin Add Rubin as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

I want to believe all of what you claim about May, I really do. But you do not achieve high political office in any country by being as stupid as you claim she is.

It simply does not wash. Personally, and here I accept I am right into the conspiracy s***, I suspect her husband has played a huge role in all of this because they are in many ways a real 'power' couple. I accept that I am socially conservative with old fashioned views but I inherently distrust the motives of any politician who does not have children. I know that can be pulled to pieces in all sorts of ways but that is my gut instinct and nothing will ever change that.

May is shrewd, with an incredibly thick skin (by all political conventions she should have gone even though she won the leadership challenge because of the amount of votes cast against her) and she does not come back to us with a deal that she knows is going to fail without having a bloody good reason.

The DUP alone are reason it is a non-starter. And the DUP are the real deal when it comes to politics. This is not a game for them and I am sure they all still have to check underneath their cars for bombs along with knowing both victims and perpetrators of terrorist killings. They are a cut above your usual self serving political types we get in the UK. I am not defending them, and have never understood all that sectarian nonsense but they don't back down easily. She would have known that.

Yes, some of the ERG did back it but I suspect they worked out what was happening. Again, these are not silly people (nobody who makes it Parliament should ever be underestimated) and I believe worked it out too late.

Revoking A50 was never a goer. They need a second referendum to offer them at least a veneer of democratic accountability. May gets the Labour Party to give her that, with the backlash shared equally between them both.

In someways it deserves kudos for the cunning.

May showed her corruption and dedication to 'elites' over the public as Home Secretary. She appointed Fiona Woolf and Butler-Sloss to chair the Child Sexual Abuse enquiry, both of whom had close links to people who were to be investigated. She should have been charged with attempting to pervert the course of justice back then, preventing her becoming PM.

Wouldn't have made a difference to the way Brexit has played out of course, as they would have just put someone else equally as subservient to the EU in the position instead.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 05 Apr 19 7.59pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

I think you are misunderstanding the underlying concept here.

This doesnt mean we spent that money.

It means we didn't grow the economy as much as we should have, which means we lost out on the money coming in to the economy.

I didnt at all.
Growing the economy isnt created by investing in the state. That doesnt make a penny profit.
It is created by allowing private business to prosper and that money would never be allowed to be invested privately.
I doubt that it would or could be invested.
Much like the bank buy out argument by some that they think the money given to bail out the banks could or would have been used on schools and hospitals etc.
Total blind thinking as a budget is a budget.
Whether the UK or yours and mine.

 

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Pussay Patrol Flag 05 Apr 19 8.47pm

Originally posted by cryrst

I didnt at all.
Growing the economy isnt created by investing in the state. That doesnt make a penny profit.
It is created by allowing private business to prosper and that money would never be allowed to be invested privately.
I doubt that it would or could be invested.
Much like the bank buy out argument by some that they think the money given to bail out the banks could or would have been used on schools and hospitals etc.
Total blind thinking as a budget is a budget.
Whether the UK or yours and mine.

Sorry but you are still misunderstood

Had we not voted to leave and we never had the current turmoil and uncertainty, our economy would be 66bn better off or 550m a week

 


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.TUX. Flag 05 Apr 19 10.38pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Sorry but you are still misunderstood

Had we not voted to leave and we never had the current turmoil and uncertainty, our economy would be 66bn better off or 550m a week

And you'd still not see a penny of it.
How well has the bloc done during our period of ''turmoil and uncertainty''?

 


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View Maine Eagle's Profile Maine Eagle Flag USA 05 Apr 19 11.39pm Send a Private Message to Maine Eagle Add Maine Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

I didnt at all.
Growing the economy isnt created by investing in the state. That doesnt make a penny profit.
It is created by allowing private business to prosper and that money would never be allowed to be invested privately.
I doubt that it would or could be invested.
Much like the bank buy out argument by some that they think the money given to bail out the banks could or would have been used on schools and hospitals etc.
Total blind thinking as a budget is a budget.
Whether the UK or yours and mine.

I didnt say investing money in the state, I said money coming into the economy.

You asked where we "spent" the 550 mil a week. We didnt spend it, we lost out on it, as the economy in general grew at a slower rate than it should have.

Therefore with all due respect, you misunderstood the point.

It has nothing to do with "investing in the state" whatever that means.

 


Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

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View SW19 CPFC's Profile SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 06 Apr 19 9.10am Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

I didn’t write this, but it partly sums up my attitude towards the hypocrisy on the leave side, and to a lesser extent the remain side flip flopping between criticising MPs then expecting them to deliver.

‘The idiots panting we should ‘just leave’ and ‘we will be ok’ and ‘believe in Britain’ and other assorted spewey phrases of unconsidered putrid bile and fetid hot air need to remember that in order for no deal to be a success, THE SAME PEOPLE that are in charge of the current s*** show right now will have to make it so.

There will be a change in leader, but the troops will remain the same.

This is honestly the worst thing about the Brexit Fiasco.

The empowerment, encouragement and normalisation of this cloudcuckooland blind-faith attitude. Famous politicians and celebrities are saying this stuff, and it has trickled down to the Brexit proletariat.

It is, without hyperbole, the road to societal collapse. It’s the antithesis of the scientific method, of the entire modern world, of good governance, of any sort of basic preparation or project management.

‘Something will turn up’ is the feckless ethos of the pawnshop, although in the case of the pawnshop it’s usually caused by the desperation of poverty rather than propagandistic racism.

Goves ‘the British people are fed up with experts’ was the most important soundbite to come out of Brexit. A special plague on that c***.

Can they not imagine what it will be like when they’ve won? How will they govern without ‘expertise’ from the ‘experts’ they’ve poisoned the well against? Or will there be authorised Brexiter experts, like Pat Minford, who will be listened to?

What then, when they’ve caused catastrophes with their nonsense? Do they remain in place as ‘experts’ like the WW1 Generals who’ve just sent 450,000 troops into machine gun fire in a single day and are kept around to do it all again tomorrow?

Mooo, in the words of Lord Melchett.’

Made me laugh anyway.

 


Did you know? 98.0000001% of people are morons.

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This is so true

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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 06 Apr 19 9.32am Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

I didnt say investing money in the state, I said money coming into the economy.

You asked where we "spent" the 550 mil a week. We didnt spend it, we lost out on it, as the economy in general grew at a slower rate than it should have.

Therefore with all due respect, you misunderstood the point.

It has nothing to do with "investing in the state" whatever that means.

But wages went up, I don't think people care
About the economy growing anymore, as people don't see a tangible Benifit. Schools struggle, police/knife crime, cuts in public services and this was before brexit.

Buisness needs to take less profit and pay the workers.
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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 06 Apr 19 9.37am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

‘The idiots panting we should ‘just leave’ and ‘we will be ok’ and ‘believe in Britain’ and other assorted spewey phrases of unconsidered putrid bile and fetid hot air need to remember that in order for no deal to be a success, THE SAME PEOPLE that are in charge of the current s*** show right now will have to make it so.

There will be a change in leader, but the troops will remain the same.

This is honestly the worst thing about the Brexit Fiasco.

The empowerment, encouragement and normalisation of this cloudcuckooland blind-faith attitude. Famous politicians and celebrities are saying this stuff, and it has trickled down to the Brexit proletariat.

It is, without hyperbole, the road to societal collapse. It’s the antithesis of the scientific method, of the entire modern world, of good governance, of any sort of basic preparation or project management.

‘Something will turn up’ is the feckless ethos of the pawnshop, although in the case of the pawnshop it’s usually caused by the desperation of poverty rather than propagandistic racism.

Goves ‘the British people are fed up with experts’ was the most important soundbite to come out of Brexit. A special plague on that c***.

Can they not imagine what it will be like when they’ve won? How will they govern without ‘expertise’ from the ‘experts’ they’ve poisoned the well against? Or will there be authorised Brexiter experts, like Pat Minford, who will be listened to?

What then, when they’ve caused catastrophes with their nonsense? Do they remain in place as ‘experts’ like the WW1 Generals who’ve just sent 450,000 troops into machine gun fire in a single day and are kept around to do it all again tomorrow?

Mooo, in the words of Lord Melchett.’

Made me laugh anyway.

I do like an unbiased and neutral assessment

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 06 Apr 19 9.39am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

I didn’t write this, but it partly sums up my attitude towards the hypocrisy on the leave side, and to a lesser extent the remain side flip flopping between criticising MPs then expecting them to deliver.

‘The idiots panting we should ‘just leave’ and ‘we will be ok’ and ‘believe in Britain’ and other assorted spewey phrases of unconsidered putrid bile and fetid hot air need to remember that in order for no deal to be a success, THE SAME PEOPLE that are in charge of the current s*** show right now will have to make it so.

There will be a change in leader, but the troops will remain the same.

This is honestly the worst thing about the Brexit Fiasco.

The empowerment, encouragement and normalisation of this cloudcuckooland blind-faith attitude. Famous politicians and celebrities are saying this stuff, and it has trickled down to the Brexit proletariat.

It is, without hyperbole, the road to societal collapse. It’s the antithesis of the scientific method, of the entire modern world, of good governance, of any sort of basic preparation or project management.

‘Something will turn up’ is the feckless ethos of the pawnshop, although in the case of the pawnshop it’s usually caused by the desperation of poverty rather than propagandistic racism.

Goves ‘the British people are fed up with experts’ was the most important soundbite to come out of Brexit. A special plague on that c***.

Can they not imagine what it will be like when they’ve won? How will they govern without ‘expertise’ from the ‘experts’ they’ve poisoned the well against? Or will there be authorised Brexiter experts, like Pat Minford, who will be listened to?

What then, when they’ve caused catastrophes with their nonsense? Do they remain in place as ‘experts’ like the WW1 Generals who’ve just sent 450,000 troops into machine gun fire in a single day and are kept around to do it all again tomorrow?

Mooo, in the words of Lord Melchett.’

Made me laugh anyway.

Some of this I agree with, especially the cvckwits in parliament being in charge of us being okay or May’s ‘We will make a success of it’ speech.

On the experts comment, I think you’re right. We should’ve joined the Euro, because we missed out on the excitement when it went t1ts up, and we should’ve listened to Mark Carney’s apocalypse speeches, only now he says it won’t be anywhere near as bad and will be okay he’s surely not an expert after all?

 


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