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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 21 Mar 19 6.21am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

The EU which we are part of, protecting our jobs and our industries.

You'd rather flood the UK with cheap crap food putting our own companies out of business so you can save a few pennies?

Race to the bottom

Does the race to the bottom include selling horse meat as beef or removing the sell by dates on chicken and relabeling them with a later date

 

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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 21 Mar 19 6.21am Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Read Midlands link and specifically the part about salmonella

Plus the soppy yoof kind of care about social responsibility and welfare nowadays.

Here is your social responsibility

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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 21 Mar 19 6.28am Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Our food is better quality than anywhere else in the world. I for one do not want to see a race to the bottom.

Presumably you feel the same way about fireworks and building materials. Why do we need regulation, the market will manage it

Simple naivety.

How's your race to the bottom with disgusting halal slaughter methods?

 

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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 21 Mar 19 6.33am Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

The EU which we are part of, protecting our jobs and our industries.

You'd rather flood the UK with cheap crap food putting our own companies out of business so you can save a few pennies?

Race to the bottom

What about flooding our country with cheap labour! Race to the bottom?

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 21 Mar 19 7.16am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

Yes because of British Safety standards & not EU Directives.

The Meat Hygiene Service (now FSA) was set up largely in response to a new EU Directive on meat. It was more demanding than predecessor UK regulations that were managed by local authorities

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 21 Mar 19 7.18am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

What about flooding our country with cheap labour! Race to the bottom?

Perhaps. But I haven’t found that to be a lower standard than UK labour. Quite the opposite

 

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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 21 Mar 19 7.18am Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

May blaming everyone else but her self!
She will go down in history as a liar
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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 21 Mar 19 7.19am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Does the race to the bottom include selling horse meat as beef or removing the sell by dates on chicken and relabeling them with a later date

Examples of specific regulatory failure do not establish your point.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 21 Mar 19 7.21am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

All of this concern over lowering food standards.

You guys have obviously never bought a Lidi Cornish Pastie.

I'm amazed I'm still here.

Good point well made

Albeit Aldi is actually one of the best at managing its food supply chain, usually buying locally.

Along with the Lidl in New Addington.

 

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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 21 Mar 19 7.22am Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Perhaps. But I haven’t found that to be a lower standard than UK labour. Quite the opposite

His words
"putting our own companies out of business so you can save a few pennies"
That was my point as he is pro mass immigration to "save a few pennies"

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 21 Mar 19 7.24am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

Actually, those Salmonella stats are fascinating (yes, I know, bloody sad).

I appreciate the 1.2 million cases is a CDC estimate but how many are actually reported? For example, there were over 94,000 cases reported across the EU in 2016.

Is the criteria for measuring it an agreed international standard? Or is it based solely on hospitalisations?

I understand that most cases are from eggs or egg derived products. How would that impact on beef?

Genuine question here because I do like to understand how data is arrived at.

There are issues with each meat type. Salmonella is primarily related to chicken which is where this thread had been focusing. BSE is also an issue, as is scrapie

 

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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 21 Mar 19 7.29am Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

There are issues with each meat type. Salmonella is primarily related to chicken which is where this thread had been focusing. BSE is also an issue, as is scrapie

And to put it in perspectives

"CDC estimates Salmonella causes about 1.2 million illnesses, 23,000 hospitalizations, and 450 deaths in theUnited States every year. Food is the source for about 1 million of these illnesses. Most persons infected withSalmonella develop diarrhea, fever, and abdominal cramps 12 to 72 hours after infection."

So 1 million from food, and that is not to do with the chlorine is it.
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