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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 25 Feb 16 4.21pm

Originally posted by rikz

Seriously, come on, paedophilia is a much higher problem within the male population, I would say it's almost none existent within the female population. Female paedophiles/child killers are so rare that they go down in history among the most infamous criminals.

About 20% of sex offenders in the UK are women, according to the Lucy Faithful Foundation (who work specifically with victims of female child sex offenders). If that's true, that would mean around 64,000.

Police think its between 5% and 25%, but have recorded rises in sex offences by women against children. LFF work with victims of abuse, specifically those abused by women, which does put them in a good position to determine.

Very few convictions seem to occur, around 5% of convictions are of women, but that's rising.

Its also less likely that abuse by women would be detectable, believed or prosecuted as well - especially where offences were committed against boys in their teens.

Originally posted by rikz
And without excusing what they do they are usually working alongside a male that they are fixated, obsessed, Controlled or even abused by.
Genuine question has there ever been a woman who has been convicted of paedophilia who worked entirely alone or a female only pedophile ring ?

Thing to remember is that paedophile rings are rare, and often a construction of the media in some cases (ie people who share p***.graphy as opposed to sharing in direct offending). Most abusers work alone and use technology to share or communicate. The internet has just made that easier. Most of these people aren't getting together.

I suspect that many women have been getting away with it. Certainly groups working with families think that is the case, notably that abuse may well not be reported to the police but to social services and resolved in family court rather than criminal court.

I think that its an area that will be exposed over the next few years, with a lot of research in that areas seeming to suggest a much higher pattern of abusers than would be expected. Criminologists and forensic psychology in this area is turning up the likelihood that its far higher than believed.

 


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Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Thing to remember is that paedophile rings are rare, and often a construction of the media in some cases (ie people who share p***.graphy as opposed to sharing in direct offending). Most abusers work alone and use technology to share or communicate. The internet has just made that easier. Most of these people aren't getting together.

I suspect that many women have been getting away with it. Certainly groups working with families think that is the case, notably that abuse may well not be reported to the police but to social services and resolved in family court rather than criminal court.

I think that its an area that will be exposed over the next few years, with a lot of research in that areas seeming to suggest a much higher pattern of abusers than would be expected. Criminologists and forensic psychology in this area is turning up the likelihood that its far higher than believed.

These stats won't distinguish wether the crime was committed by a hebephile or a paedophile which is a massive difference in the crime committed.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 26 Feb 16 11.23am

Originally posted by rikz

These stats won't distinguish wether the crime was committed by a hebephile or a paedophile which is a massive difference in the crime committed.

It definitely can do, I agree with that, however that doesn't preclude them from committing criminal sexual acts against children, whether they are pre or post pubity - The problem seems to me, more that we as a society have been overlooking sexual offences against children committed by women.

 


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bubble wrap Flag Carparks in South East London 26 Feb 16 12.17pm

How many Cub/Scout leaders have been exposed as wronguns? Too many. You are right to be cautious. I wouldn't let my kids anywhere near them.
Male Children's entertainers,Catholic Priests are also on my steer clear list.
If that offends anyone tough.

 

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Originally posted by bubble wrap

How many Cub/Scout leaders have been exposed as wronguns? Too many. You are right to be cautious. I wouldn't let my kids anywhere near them.
Male Children's entertainers,Catholic Priests are also on my steer clear list.
If that offends anyone tough.

If you are just going on statistics/odds, would you leave your children with members of your family?

 


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bubble wrap Flag Carparks in South East London 26 Feb 16 9.08pm

Originally posted by topcat

If you are just going on statistics/odds, would you leave your children with members of your family?

None of my family are childrens entertainers, cub scout leaders or Catholic Priests so yes would leave my kids with family members.

 

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I didn't realise how lucky I have been until I read this thread as I spent many years in the scout movement from junior cub upwards and emerged unscathed and unmolested but perhaps paedophilia is a modern phenomenon.

Incidentally I would be interested to compare the statistics for paedophilia convictions amongst scouting leaders to criminal convictions amongst football supporters as people might not want to let their kids go to football matches if they are surrounded by low lives

 

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View conrada20's Profile conrada20 Flag Eastbourne 27 Feb 16 10.09am Send a Private Message to conrada20 Add conrada20 as a friend

Originally posted by Casual


Good post. To be fair I never said that you was all nonces, would just expect there to be a higher proportion than in everyday society. Anyway fair play to you for giving your time , for I'm assuming no pay? But i still won't be sending my boys.
Cheers.

Thanks,there is no pay but in my group we are sponsored so have no expenses. I started as a helper as my son's group needed more assistants to maintain a responsible leader/young person ratio. I moved through the organisation with him and stayed. Where else can I go sailing, kayaking, canoeing, shooting, climbing, carting, back stage at Selhurst Park, plus much, much more for nothing&#128512;

 


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View johnno42000's Profile johnno42000 Flag 27 Feb 16 12.38pm Send a Private Message to johnno42000 Add johnno42000 as a friend

Wasn't there women involved with the Rotherham paedophile ring?

 


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View Casual's Profile Casual Flag Orpington 06 Aug 16 7.01pm Send a Private Message to Casual Add Casual as a friend

Saw one in the paper today. Lifed off for 40 years of noncing.
Not good.

 

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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 07 Aug 16 9.56pm

Originally posted by conrada20

Thanks,there is no pay but in my group we are sponsored so have no expenses. I started as a helper as my son's group needed more assistants to maintain a responsible leader/young person ratio. I moved through the organisation with him and stayed. Where else can I go sailing, kayaking, canoeing, shooting, climbing, carting, back stage at Selhurst Park, plus much, much more for nothing&#128512;

I think its the much much more that Casual is worried about..

 


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Originally posted by rikz

Forget what the pc brigade tells you, even tho you could be wrong, There's nothing wrong with sterotyping. it's a human instinct that could keep you and your family safe.
If I had to chose between a black guy in his 30's looking after my kids and a white guy in his 50's, I would pick the black guy 100%, the same as if I had the choice of 2 different routes, 1 with a group of black teenagers with hoods and caps and the other a group of Chinese teenagers I would go for the route with the Chinese kids. Anyone who tells you they don't stereotype are either lying or stupid.

Tell me do you understand irony, or is it too bigger a word ?

 


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