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 Mr_Gristle  In the land of Whelk Eaters 03 Jun 16 1.26pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Its also noteworthy, that Chomsky, whilst often portrayed as being very left wing, as actually opposed to authoritarianism primarily, and frames his criticism of capitalism, not on the idea of capitalism, but the fact that around 80% of the population are divorced from involvement in economic decisions, and that within the US, the Democratic and Republican party, simply represent business interests. I always regarded him more of a slightly left of centre anti-authoritarian. The fact that Chomsky, who is anti-government manipulation of the masses, is portrayed by many as a rabid leftie is illuminating. I didn't realise that it was left wing to want to be free of state control and manipulation. According to many on here, the left is all about state control isn't it? Chomsky tells it like it is. No wonder he's regarded as a (dangerous?) radical.
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| Bert the Head Epsom 03 Jun 16 10.54pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
More anti semitism from a Labour member holding office: When is the left going to recognise that the 'anti Israel' lobby has mutated into rabid anti semitism & do something about it? This is Media Lens take on the story (Part I).
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 03 Jun 16 11.06pm |
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Originally posted by Bert the Head
This is Media Lens take on the story (Part I).
A great article Bert, probably more suited to your eponymous thread. It's strange how media stories disappeared after key events like elections. Perhaps some of the more enlightened posters can counter this as I'm always happy to be corrected. Edited by nickgusset (03 Jun 2016 11.06pm)
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| Palacetinian Surrey Fam 03 Jun 16 11.11pm |
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Simple question - how do you criticise the apartheid state of Israel and NOT get accused of anti-semitism? By the way the description of Israel as an apartheid state comes from former US President Carter...
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 03 Jun 16 11.15pm |
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Originally posted by Palacetinian
Simple question - how do you criticise the apartheid state of Israel and NOT get accused of anti-semitism? By the way the description of Israel as an apartheid state comes from former US President Carter... You can't.
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| Palacetinian Surrey Fam 03 Jun 16 11.47pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Precisely!
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| EagleEyedAlbert ...too far north of the water. 04 Jun 16 12.55am |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
You can't.
Have a problem with Israel & it's politics by all means (many Jewish people do) but it's pretty easy to distinguish that your problem is with Israel & not the Jewish people as a whole.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 04 Jun 16 1.09am |
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Originally posted by EagleEyedAlbert
Have a problem with Israel & it's politics by all means (many Jewish people do) but it's pretty easy to distinguish that your problem is with Israel & not the Jewish people as a whole. Edited by EagleEyedAlbert (04 Jun 2016 1.01am) I agree, but you will always get those that shout anti semite (even if they are wrong) if Israel government policy is criticized.
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| matt_himself Matataland 04 Jun 16 9.08am |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
I agree, but you will always get those that shout anti semite (even if they are wrong) if Israel government policy is criticized. If you wish to continue burying your head in the sand about this, please do so. But please don't continue to state that this is a simple politics and an attempt to create a storm to win votes. There are plenty of comments that have been reported which are bang out of order. Labour needs to sort that out not excuse it.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 04 Jun 16 9.34am |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
If you wish to continue burying your head in the sand about this, please do so. But please don't continue to state that this is a simple politics and an attempt to create a storm to win votes. There are plenty of comments that have been reported which are bang out of order. Labour needs to sort that out not excuse it. suspending people isn't sorting it out?
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| matt_himself Matataland 04 Jun 16 9.43am |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
suspending people isn't sorting it out? No. Expelling them would be. Funny isn't it that the Momentum members are getting off the hook?
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 04 Jun 16 9.53am |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
No. Expelling them would be. Funny isn't it that the Momentum members are getting off the hook? Wasn't Ken expelled. Meanwhile purveyor of racist comments Boris is allowed to position himself as potential Tory leader.
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