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Hoof Hearted 30 May 16 12.26pm

2 stories dominating the News headlines this weekend.

First off the woman that went swimming at night in Australia and got carried off by a crocodile.

How ferkin stupid was she?

Australia has a range of dangerous beasts, Crocodiles (types comfortable in fresh and salt water), Sharks, Spiders and Snakes, and probably more us Brits aren't even aware of.

If you're that stoopid to go swimming at night any where in Australia you probably deserve to die.

Now the story about the 4 year old boy that fell into the moat surrounding the Gorilla pit in USA.

I hate Zoos.... mostly they restrict the lifestyles of the captured animals... particularly primates like Gorillas. If you must, build wildlife safari parks.

This story seems a tragic waste of life for a 17 year old Silverback Gorilla, but his death may be a release from the torment of being caged when he naturally wants to roam free.

The Zoo itself was pretty stupid - how could they not be able to prevent a child of 4 being able to get through a security fence?

The Mother was even more stoopid - keep an eye on your son love. She was heard to shout "Mummy Loves You" as the kid was being manhandled by the Gorilla... but Mummy didn't love her kid enough to watch what he was doing.

If it was me I'd have put a bullet between the eyes of the boy's mother and at least tried to sedate the Gorilla with a dart gun before committing him to death.

RIP Mr Gorilla

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 30 May 16 12.38pm

Quite agree the only real victim is the Gorilla. Although the woman in the first example is unlucky.

Someone once told me, that more people are killed by bears in the US / Canada by trying to get their picture taken with bears, than as a result of actual bear attacks.

 


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Hoof Hearted 30 May 16 12.40pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Quite agree the only real victim is the Gorilla. Although the woman in the first example is unlucky.

Someone once told me, that more people are killed by bears in the US / Canada by trying to get their picture taken with bears, than as a result of actual bear attacks.

Yes she was unlucky.... not to have the sense to keep herself out of danger!

 

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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

2 stories dominating the News headlines this weekend.

First off the woman that went swimming at night in Australia and got carried off by a crocodile.

How ferkin stupid was she?

Australia has a range of dangerous beasts, Crocodiles (types comfortable in fresh and salt water), Sharks, Spiders and Snakes, and probably more us Brits aren't even aware of.

If you're that stoopid to go swimming at night any where in Australia you probably deserve to die.

Now the story about the 4 year old boy that fell into the moat surrounding the Gorilla pit in USA.

I hate Zoos.... mostly they restrict the lifestyles of the captured animals... particularly primates like Gorillas. If you must, build wildlife safari parks.

This story seems a tragic waste of life for a 17 year old Silverback Gorilla, but his death may be a release from the torment of being caged when he naturally wants to roam free.

The Zoo itself was pretty stupid - how could they not be able to prevent a child of 4 being able to get through a security fence?

The Mother was even more stoopid - keep an eye on your son love. She was heard to shout "Mummy Loves You" as the kid was being manhandled by the Gorilla... but Mummy didn't love her kid enough to watch what he was doing.

If it was me I'd have put a bullet between the eyes of the boy's mother and at least tried to sedate the Gorilla with a dart gun before committing him to death.

RIP Mr Gorilla


The biggest tragedy with the gorilla is that the child didn't seem to be in too much danger from him. He actually pulled the child into shallower water, then lifted him to his feet and tried to push him from behind towards the edge of the moat and dry land. When the child didn't move, he grabbed and dragged him out to safety. When he was shot, he was sitting with the child between is knees.

I agree that he dragged him quite violently by human standards, but pretty much how a gorilla would treat one of it's own young. If he actually was aggressive towards the child, it wouldn't have made it out of the water.

Reminded of the similar incident at Jersey zoo 30 years ago [Link]


 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 31 May 16 10.04am

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

Yes she was unlucky.... not to have the sense to keep herself out of danger!

I guess a lot of people do the same thing, go night swimming, and only a few 'come a cropper' to borrow a term from Home and Away. People take risks all the time and get away with it, but the nature of any risk is that of course not everyone gets away with it.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 31 May 16 10.09am

Originally posted by becky


The biggest tragedy with the gorilla is that the child didn't seem to be in too much danger from him. He actually pulled the child into shallower water, then lifted him to his feet and tried to push him from behind towards the edge of the moat and dry land. When the child didn't move, he grabbed and dragged him out to safety. When he was shot, he was sitting with the child between is knees.

I agree that he dragged him quite violently by human standards, but pretty much how a gorilla would treat one of it's own young. If he actually was aggressive towards the child, it wouldn't have made it out of the water.

Reminded of the similar incident at Jersey zoo 30 years ago [Link]


I would guess that most zoos policy is to 'protect human life in any risk scenario'. Which is a shame, because the function of zoos really should be about protecting the occupants from us (arguably the moral justification of zoos stems largely from the threat that humans offer to indigenous species).

From a more objective stand point, evolution would have been better served by not shooting the Gorilla and see how the kid got on.

 


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Hoof Hearted 31 May 16 10.11am

Originally posted by becky


The biggest tragedy with the gorilla is that the child didn't seem to be in too much danger from him. He actually pulled the child into shallower water, then lifted him to his feet and tried to push him from behind towards the edge of the moat and dry land. When the child didn't move, he grabbed and dragged him out to safety. When he was shot, he was sitting with the child between is knees.

I agree that he dragged him quite violently by human standards, but pretty much how a gorilla would treat one of it's own young. If he actually was aggressive towards the child, it wouldn't have made it out of the water.

Reminded of the similar incident at Jersey zoo 30 years ago [Link]


Summed up beautifully Becks.

The poor Gorilla got shafted.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 31 May 16 11.10am

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

Summed up beautifully Becks.

The poor Gorilla got shafted.

'Merica... Shoot first, think later.

 


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Hoof Hearted 31 May 16 3.34pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

'Merica... Shoot first, think later.

"Yeehaw.... we have the right to bear arms and shoot the sh1t out of what the fcuk we like... Taint no one gonna take that right away from us! Ya hear!"

 

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She wrote on facebook that "God protected my child..."

She should've told the zookeepers, "don't worry God's got this covered - no need to shoot".

It wasn't God, it was blind luck and a rifle

 


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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

"Yeehaw.... we have the right to bear arms and shoot the sh1t out of what the fcuk we like... Taint no one gonna take that right away from us! Ya hear!"

"I'll give you my gun when you pry it from my cold, dead hands"

 


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Originally posted by Stuk

She wrote on facebook that "God protected my child..."

She should've told the zookeepers, "don't worry God's got this covered - no need to shoot".

It wasn't God, it was blind luck and a rifle

Well it certainly wasn't her

 

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