Human stupidity regarding wild animals.
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jamiemartin721  Reading 31 May 16 6.08pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
She wrote on facebook that "God protected my child..." She should've told the zookeepers, "don't worry God's got this covered - no need to shoot". It wasn't God, it was blind luck and a rifle Presumably God could have done better by not letting the kid get in the cage, rather than relying on snipers.
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chateauferret  31 May 16 6.11pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Presumably God could have done better by not letting the kid get in the cage, rather than relying on snipers. Or He might have given the silly cow a few brain cells to be going on with.
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 Stuk Top half 31 May 16 8.57pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Presumably God could have done better by not letting the kid get in the cage, rather than relying on snipers. Funny how he's always reactive rather than proactive in the minds of these loons, but the gorilla had certainly done better at being attentive to the child than the mother. Edited by Stuk (31 May 2016 9.01pm)
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nairb75  Baltimore 31 May 16 9.36pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
Funny how he's always reactive rather than proactive in the minds of these loons, but the gorilla had certainly done better at being attentive to the child than the mother. Edited by Stuk (31 May 2016 9.01pm) hard for me to judge. have 3 kids - they run off and get into all kinds of stuff. 3 year old literally got away from his mom when at the zoo. he didn't crawl into the the monkey pen but then again, it's behind glass. no idea if this woman was way negligent or not. didn't hear the story but i'm not judging until i hear it. kids do some REALLY dumb stuff. can turn your head for 10 seconds and you can't find them. now that couple in portugal who went out and left their kid in the hotel alone at night, that's negligent.
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| Stuk Top half 31 May 16 10.10pm |
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Originally posted by nairb75
hard for me to judge. have 3 kids - they run off and get into all kinds of stuff. 3 year old literally got away from his mom when at the zoo. he didn't crawl into the the monkey pen but then again, it's behind glass. no idea if this woman was way negligent or not. didn't hear the story but i'm not judging until i hear it. kids do some REALLY dumb stuff. can turn your head for 10 seconds and you can't find them. now that couple in portugal who went out and left their kid in the hotel alone at night, that's negligent. I'd love to know how any visitor, adult or child, can even get into an enclosure holding any kind of dangerous animal. That's certainly negligent on the zoo's behalf. Personally I'm always more on guard in those type of attractions or days out, like zoos and theme parks etc. It's the day to day stuff when you tend to let your guard down I find. Don't get me started on the McCanns.
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| nairb75 Baltimore 01 Jun 16 3.26am |
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Originally posted by Stuk
I'd love to know how any visitor, adult or child, can even get into an enclosure holding any kind of dangerous animal. That's certainly negligent on the zoo's behalf. Personally I'm always more on guard in those type of attractions or days out, like zoos and theme parks etc. It's the day to day stuff when you tend to let your guard down I find. Don't get me started on the McCanns.
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coulsdoneagle  London 01 Jun 16 5.44am |
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The other story about the 2 lions killed when a man jumped in to a lion pit to commit suicide. What I find shocking is people who suggest that they should have let the man die. A mentally ill human whose life apparently holds less value than a couple of big cats, how is that okay? It's sad that the lions got killed and it's sad that the gorilla was shot, but at the end of the day they are animals, a human life is inherently more valuable and people who suggest otherwise need a reality check.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 01 Jun 16 8.30am |
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Lifelong animal fan here and 31 years a non meat-eater. If that had been my kid I would have shot the gorilla myself.
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Y Ddraig Goch  In The Crowd 01 Jun 16 8.38am |
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Originally posted by coulsdoneagle
The other story about the 2 lions killed when a man jumped in to a lion pit to commit suicide. What I find shocking is people who suggest that they should have let the man die. A mentally ill human whose life apparently holds less value than a couple of big cats, how is that okay? It's sad that the lions got killed and it's sad that the gorilla was shot, but at the end of the day they are animals, a human life is inherently more valuable and people who suggest otherwise need a reality check. Are they? Why? We are all animals, if a human is not functioning properly is his life more valuable? On the subject of animal attacks [Link]
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 01 Jun 16 9.56am |
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Originally posted by coulsdoneagle
It's sad that the lions got killed and it's sad that the gorilla was shot, but at the end of the day they are animals, a human life is inherently more valuable and people who suggest otherwise need a reality check. Is it, though and why? Whilst I'm inclined to agree, is there really a reason why a human life is more valuable than that of an animal, other than human egocentricity? The issue with the lions, was tragic. And its more of really about of how poorly funded, equipped and staffed mental health services are - especially in comparison to health services. Society doesn't really care about human life and especially the mental ill. If we did, we'd actually do something about issues like poverty and homelessness. Certainly we, as humanity, take better care of animals in a zoo, than we do the mentally ill, who for the most part we load up on medication and release back into society with minimal support. Where as those lions, were housed, fed regularly, had specialist health care etc the mentally ill, can expect a best to see someone once a month, get a free prescription, have to negotiate the bureaucracy of the welfare and council systems, with no assistance. In prison they can expect even less assistance, even if their offending is directly linked to the illness. Its only recent years that have seen mentally ill people given legal rights, common to everyone else. So, does society really care more about two lions than one mentally ill man, yes we do. We just like to pretend that we don't.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 01 Jun 16 10.06am |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Lifelong animal fan here and 31 years a non meat-eater. If that had been my kid I would have shot the gorilla myself. We like to think we would, but the problem of course would be, how good a shot are you. Quite often people with something of value at stake, won't shoot, unless their very confident in the capacity to do so, because there is a very real risk that you'll hit the child. Shoot and wound the gorilla, could lead to the gorilla turning on the child. Even emotively we tend to calculate on 'best case', and I would put money on a parent, with a gun in that scenario, not shooting the gorilla, but trying to scare it off, or distract its attention from the child - or even go into the enclosure after the kid.
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| Hoof Hearted 01 Jun 16 10.31am | |
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Originally posted by coulsdoneagle
The other story about the 2 lions killed when a man jumped in to a lion pit to commit suicide. What I find shocking is people who suggest that they should have let the man die. A mentally ill human whose life apparently holds less value than a couple of big cats, how is that okay? It's sad that the lions got killed and it's sad that the gorilla was shot, but at the end of the day they are animals, a human life is inherently more valuable and people who suggest otherwise need a reality check. Really? We've not even touched upon those heartless b*stards that slaughter Elephants and Rhino's for their ivory tusks and horn for sale to Chinese 'Pharmacy' potions. Some human life is inherently sub human it seems.
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