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Ginger Pubic Wig Wickham de L'Ouest 04 Aug 16 6.49pm
I'll have ballsed all this up so dont take the piss when you see the flaws. Im doing it on the train, on a phone, and with my s**ty memory. All the lather about Benteke has got me thinking more widely about our transfer strategy. Here's where I got to. Tell me where you disagree with the assertions and why. Our revenues for as long as we are PL during the current TV deal should be circa £130m, give or take 10% depending on how much we appear on the telly and our position. As such, my gut tells me something like £90m-£100m will go on 'player spending'. My rationale may be wrong but I think that will take us to the upper end of our FFP capacity and we won't go over. When I say 'player spending' I mean net spend on players plus total wages (ie all bonuses included). That is ALL players down to grass roots. Agree so far? More or less? What that means is that if we sign a player for 5 years at 10 mill and 10 mill in wages (£40k ish a week) then such players cost us £4m per season if we have neutral net spend. That's about 4% of our annual player spend or maybe a bit more ON JUST ONE PLAYER. I think that devoting that level is fine. Doubling that -- 8% -- is getting high but okay, maybe for the absolutely ideal candidate. But when we get into 30m transfers with 30m wages...then I get cold feet. At 12.5m a season in annual outlay, that is too many eggs in the one basket for my liking. PS: I make no pretense that the totals are going to be super precise bit broadly the question I am asking is: what proportion* of our spend should go on one player. Edited by Ginger Pubic Wig (04 Aug 2016 6.51pm) If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.
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I'll have ballsed all this up so dont take the piss when you see the flaws. Im doing it on the train, on a phone, and with my s***ty memory.

All the lather about Benteke has got me thinking more widely about our transfer strategy.

Here's where I got to. Tell me where you disagree with the assertions and why.

Our revenues for as long as we are PL during the current TV deal should be circa £130m, give or take 10% depending on how much we appear on the telly and our position.

As such, my gut tells me something like £90m-£100m will go on 'player spending'*. My rationale may be wrong but I think that will take us to the upper end of our FFP capacity and we won't go over.

*When I say 'player spending' I mean net spend on players plus total wages (ie all bonuses included). That is ALL players down to grass roots.

Agree so far? More or less?

What that means is that if we sign a player for 5 years at 10 mill and 10 mill in wages (£40k ish a week) then such players cost us £4m per season if we have neutral net spend. That's about 4% of our annual player spend or maybe a bit more ON JUST ONE PLAYER.

I think that devoting that level is fine. Doubling that -- 8% -- is getting high but okay, maybe for the absolutely ideal candidate. But when we get into 30m transfers with 30m wages...then I get cold feet. At 12.5m a season in annual outlay, that is too many eggs in the one basket for my liking.

PS: I make no pretense that the totals are going to be super precise bit broadly the question I am asking is: what proportion of our spend should go on one player.

Edited by Ginger Pubic Wig (04 Aug 2016 6.51pm)

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Tom-the-eagle Croydon 04 Aug 16 6.57pm
Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig I'll have ballsed all this up so dont take the piss when you see the flaws. Im doing it on the train, on a phone, and with my s**ty memory. All the lather about Benteke has got me thinking more widely about our transfer strategy. Here's where I got to. Tell me where you disagree with the assertions and why. Our revenues for as long as we are PL during the current TV deal should be circa £130m, give or take 10% depending on how much we appear on the telly and our position. As such, my gut tells me something like £90m-£100m will go on 'player spending'. My rationale may be wrong but I think that will take us to the upper end of our FFP capacity and we won't go over. When I say 'player spending' I mean net spend on players plus total wages (ie all bonuses included). That is ALL players down to grass roots. Agree so far? More or less? What that means is that if we sign a player for 5 years at 10 mill and 10 mill in wages (£40k ish a week) then such players cost us £4m per season if we have neutral net spend. That's about 4% of our annual player spend or maybe a bit more ON JUST ONE PLAYER. I think that devoting that level is fine. Doubling that -- 8% -- is getting high but okay, maybe for the absolutely ideal candidate. But when we get into 30m transfers with 30m wages...then I get cold feet. At 12.5m a season in annual outlay, that is too many eggs in the one basket for my liking. PS: I make no pretense that the totals are going to be super precise bit broadly the question I am asking is: what proportion* of our spend should go on one player. Edited by Ginger Pubic Wig (04 Aug 2016 6.51pm) I didn't know Pardew had a Transfer Strategy "It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit
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Croydon 04 Aug 16 6.57pm

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

I'll have ballsed all this up so dont take the piss when you see the flaws. Im doing it on the train, on a phone, and with my s***ty memory.

All the lather about Benteke has got me thinking more widely about our transfer strategy.

Here's where I got to. Tell me where you disagree with the assertions and why.

Our revenues for as long as we are PL during the current TV deal should be circa £130m, give or take 10% depending on how much we appear on the telly and our position.

As such, my gut tells me something like £90m-£100m will go on 'player spending'*. My rationale may be wrong but I think that will take us to the upper end of our FFP capacity and we won't go over.

*When I say 'player spending' I mean net spend on players plus total wages (ie all bonuses included). That is ALL players down to grass roots.

Agree so far? More or less?

PS: I make no pretense that the totals are going to be super precise bit broadly the question I am asking is: what proportion of our spend should go on one player.

Edited by Ginger Pubic Wig (04 Aug 2016 6.51pm)

I didn't know Pardew had a Transfer Strategy

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

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Calder 04 Aug 16 7.21pm
Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig I'll have ballsed all this up so dont take the piss when you see the flaws. Im doing it on the train, on a phone, and with my s**ty memory. All the lather about Benteke has got me thinking more widely about our transfer strategy. Here's where I got to. Tell me where you disagree with the assertions and why. Our revenues for as long as we are PL during the current TV deal should be circa £130m, give or take 10% depending on how much we appear on the telly and our position. As such, my gut tells me something like £90m-£100m will go on 'player spending'. My rationale may be wrong but I think that will take us to the upper end of our FFP capacity and we won't go over. When I say 'player spending' I mean net spend on players plus total wages (ie all bonuses included). That is ALL players down to grass roots. Agree so far? More or less? What that means is that if we sign a player for 5 years at 10 mill and 10 mill in wages (£40k ish a week) then such players cost us £4m per season if we have neutral net spend. That's about 4% of our annual player spend or maybe a bit more ON JUST ONE PLAYER. I think that devoting that level is fine. Doubling that -- 8% -- is getting high but okay, maybe for the absolutely ideal candidate. But when we get into 30m transfers with 30m wages...then I get cold feet. At 12.5m a season in annual outlay, that is too many eggs in the one basket for my liking. PS: I make no pretense that the totals are going to be super precise bit broadly the question I am asking is: what proportion* of our spend should go on one player. Edited by Ginger Pubic Wig (04 Aug 2016 6.51pm) You had me at "hello".
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04 Aug 16 7.21pm

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

I'll have ballsed all this up so dont take the piss when you see the flaws. Im doing it on the train, on a phone, and with my s***ty memory.

All the lather about Benteke has got me thinking more widely about our transfer strategy.

Here's where I got to. Tell me where you disagree with the assertions and why.

Our revenues for as long as we are PL during the current TV deal should be circa £130m, give or take 10% depending on how much we appear on the telly and our position.

As such, my gut tells me something like £90m-£100m will go on 'player spending'*. My rationale may be wrong but I think that will take us to the upper end of our FFP capacity and we won't go over.

*When I say 'player spending' I mean net spend on players plus total wages (ie all bonuses included). That is ALL players down to grass roots.

Agree so far? More or less?

PS: I make no pretense that the totals are going to be super precise bit broadly the question I am asking is: what proportion of our spend should go on one player.

Edited by Ginger Pubic Wig (04 Aug 2016 6.51pm)

You had me at "hello".

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Midlands Eagle 04 Aug 16 7.23pm
Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle I didn't know Pardew had a Transfer Strategy Don't be silly. You know that his strategy is to buy anyone that can't get into QPR's team
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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

I didn't know Pardew had a Transfer Strategy

Don't be silly. You know that his strategy is to buy anyone that can't get into QPR's team

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chateauferret 04 Aug 16 7.40pm
AP's transfer strategy is to sit at his desk and nix any suggestions put to him by everybody else. ============ The Ferret ============
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AP's transfer strategy is to sit at his desk and nix any suggestions put to him by everybody else.

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Joeberto Streatham Hill 04 Aug 16 7.56pm
AP's transfer strategy is to headbutt anyone who questions AP's transfer strategy.
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Streatham Hill 04 Aug 16 7.56pm

AP's transfer strategy is to headbutt anyone who questions AP's transfer strategy.

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braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 04 Aug 16 8.07pm
i think this years transfer plans have gone very well so far. we needed a better partner for scotty dann. got it in tomkins we needed decent winger to rival wilf & yannick. got it in townsend needed a replacement for jules & mcarthy. got it in mandanda. all 3 signings cost, £24m great buisness, £14m net spend! all good. we havnt got the striker we needed, yet but im not worried about that as wickhams fit, if we dont sign a striker i wont care as kai-kai can deputise. as you can tell, im over the moon & really optimistic about next season. ‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway
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i think this years transfer plans have gone very well so far.

we needed a better partner for scotty dann. got it in tomkins

we needed decent winger to rival wilf & yannick. got it in townsend

needed a replacement for jules & mcarthy. got it in mandanda.

all 3 signings cost, £24m great buisness, £14m net spend! all good.

we havnt got the striker we needed, yet but im not worried about that as wickhams fit, if we dont sign a striker i wont care as kai-kai can deputise.

as you can tell, im over the moon & really optimistic about next season.

‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway

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CPFC/SCCC Sutton 04 Aug 16 8.16pm
Originally posted by braunstoneagle i think this years transfer plans have gone very well so far. we needed a better partner for scotty dann. got it in tomkins we needed decent winger to rival wilf & yannick. got it in townsend needed a replacement for jules & mcarthy. got it in mandanda. all 3 signings cost, £24m great buisness, £14m net spend! all good. we havnt got the striker we needed, yet but im not worried about that as wickhams fit, if we dont sign a striker i wont care as kai-kai can deputise. as you can tell, im over the moon & really optimistic about next season. Football's a squad game, one good game against Bromley does not mean kaikai a prem league player. Last season patrick Bamford scored an hatrick against Bromley and prove he was not good enough in the prem. I not say I don't rate kaikai, however with the prem money available,we should of had this striker sitution sorted. Andy Johnson Magic, He wears a Magic Hat When he Sees the match ball, he says he having that He scores one with left foot, he scores one with his right And When his playing Brighton, He scores all f***ING Night!
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Originally posted by braunstoneagle

i think this years transfer plans have gone very well so far.

we needed a better partner for scotty dann. got it in tomkins

we needed decent winger to rival wilf & yannick. got it in townsend

needed a replacement for jules & mcarthy. got it in mandanda.

all 3 signings cost, £24m great buisness, £14m net spend! all good.

we havnt got the striker we needed, yet but im not worried about that as wickhams fit, if we dont sign a striker i wont care as kai-kai can deputise.

as you can tell, im over the moon & really optimistic about next season.

Football's a squad game, one good game against Bromley does not mean kaikai a prem league player. Last season patrick Bamford scored an hatrick against Bromley and prove he was not good enough in the prem. I not say I don't rate kaikai, however with the prem money available,we should of had this striker sitution sorted.

Andy Johnson Magic, He wears a Magic Hat
When he Sees the match ball, he says he having that
He scores one with left foot, he scores one with his right
And When his playing Brighton, He scores all f***ING Night!

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matthau South Croydon 04 Aug 16 8.22pm
yeah but saying that. hardly any team outside the top 5 have managed to bring in a decent striker. we are all struggling.
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South Croydon 04 Aug 16 8.22pm

yeah but saying that. hardly any team outside the top 5 have managed to bring in a decent striker. we are all struggling.

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braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 04 Aug 16 8.23pm
Originally posted by CPFC/SCCC Football's a squad game, one good game against Bromley does not mean kaikai a prem league player. Last season patrick Bamford scored an hatrick against Bromley and prove he was not good enough in the prem. I not say I don't rate kaikai, however with the prem money available,we should of had this striker sitution sorted. but we tried to get the striker situation sorted with bids for benteke & berahino but it didnt work, im sure were working on other targets as we speak. why cant we chuck in a kid if needed, im not baseing my comments on kai-kai on a friendly against bromley but the fact hes surely gotta be better than the utter dogs*** frazier campbell, whats the point in us having a academy if we dont use these players? i would put money on the fact kai-kai would score more than chamakh or campbell did last few seasons goals to minute ratio. i do want us to sign another recognised striker, but would it be the end of tho of the world if we didnt rush it, took a punt on a kid and look again in janury if it didnt work out. ‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway
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the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 04 Aug 16 8.23pm

Originally posted by CPFC/SCCC

but we tried to get the striker situation sorted with bids for benteke & berahino but it didnt work, im sure were working on other targets as we speak.

why cant we chuck in a kid if needed, im not baseing my comments on kai-kai on a friendly against bromley but the fact hes surely gotta be better than the utter dogs*** frazier campbell, whats the point in us having a academy if we dont use these players?

i would put money on the fact kai-kai would score more than chamakh or campbell did last few seasons goals to minute ratio.

i do want us to sign another recognised striker, but would it be the end of tho of the world if we didnt rush it, took a punt on a kid and look again in janury if it didnt work out.

‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway

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Andy_G Wimbledon 04 Aug 16 8.32pm
Originally posted by braunstoneagle i think this years transfer plans have gone very well so far. we needed a better partner for scotty dann. got it in tomkins we needed decent winger to rival wilf & yannick. got it in townsend needed a replacement for jules & mcarthy. got it in mandanda. all 3 signings cost, £24m great buisness, £14m net spend! all good. we havnt got the striker we needed, yet but im not worried about that as wickhams fit, if we dont sign a striker i wont care as kai-kai can deputise. as you can tell, im over the moon & really optimistic about next season. Kaikai can't deputise No team would be stupid enough to go into the season with one striker, certainly not one who had a injury hit previous season. We'll get a striker, how good remains to be seen.....I'm not hopeful anymore. The ups and downs of Palace have left me older than my years
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Originally posted by braunstoneagle

i think this years transfer plans have gone very well so far.

we needed a better partner for scotty dann. got it in tomkins

we needed decent winger to rival wilf & yannick. got it in townsend

needed a replacement for jules & mcarthy. got it in mandanda.

all 3 signings cost, £24m great buisness, £14m net spend! all good.

we havnt got the striker we needed, yet but im not worried about that as wickhams fit, if we dont sign a striker i wont care as kai-kai can deputise.

as you can tell, im over the moon & really optimistic about next season.

Kaikai can't deputise

No team would be stupid enough to go into the season with one striker, certainly not one who had a injury hit previous season. We'll get a striker, how good remains to be seen.....I'm not hopeful anymore.

The ups and downs of Palace have left me older than my years

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CPFC/SCCC Sutton 04 Aug 16 8.37pm
i do want us to sign another recognised striker, but would it be the end of tho of the world if we didnt rush it, took a punt on a kid and look again in janury if it didnt work out. We can't wait to Jan with one recognised striker, I agree campbell is no good, however we had at least 6 weeks to identify striker targets. Andy Johnson Magic, He wears a Magic Hat When he Sees the match ball, he says he having that He scores one with left foot, he scores one with his right And When his playing Brighton, He scores all f***ING Night!
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i do want us to sign another recognised striker, but would it be the end of tho of the world if we didnt rush it, took a punt on a kid and look again in janury if it didnt work out.

We can't wait to Jan with one recognised striker, I agree campbell is no good, however we had at least 6 weeks to identify striker targets.

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