Connor Wickham
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 Shootylooty  Croydon 22 Aug 16 8.50pm |
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Originally posted by Icepick Tony
Some people are forgetting that Murray had a very decent career banging in goals down the lower leagues before coming to us at pretty much his prime. Wickham had a good season at 16 in the Championship and was then snapped up for big money to the Premiership. He has had nowhere near the game time in the lower leagues in competitive matches to build as a player but at 23 he is still young. He's basically learning his trade in the top tear of football in a team that creates very little for him to feed off. Most of his goals last season show he knows where the net is and has the instinct a striker needs, now with Benteke he had a striker with more experience but who plays a very similar role to learn off and take the pressure off him. Take on board your points - but 23 isn't terribly young and immature given today's game (Deli Ali is 20)? I agree he can strike the ball and scored a couple of good goals last season, but he has an immobile style which neither helps himself when easily marked or the team in servicing him. I don't believe that he reads the game well either and always seems to react too late. We'll see if he learns from Benteke - personally I can't see that it will change his game - because although you say that he is young, his style of play is already ingrained even at at his age and I don't think he's got what it takes. Edited by Shootylooty (22 Aug 2016 8.52pm)
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| Icepick Tony Chester 22 Aug 16 9.13pm |
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Originally posted by Shootylooty
Take on board your points - but 23 isn't terribly young and immature given today's game (Deli Ali is 20)? I agree he can strike the ball and scored a couple of good goals last season, but he has an immobile style which neither helps himself when easily marked or the team in servicing him. I don't believe that he reads the game well either and always seems to react too late. We'll see if he learns from Benteke - personally I can't see that it will change his game - because although you say that he is young, his style of play is already ingrained even at at his age and I don't think he's got what it takes. Edited by Shootylooty (22 Aug 2016 8.52pm) Fair enough, i really dont think there is is any substitute for game time in competitive leagues though. Alli had 4 seasons with MK before going to spurs, 2 of those with 30+ games. He also has a wealth of quality around him now and some players do develop very quickly or are just exceptionally gifted at an early age. Wickham didn't get bought young because he was no good though did he? Last season was very hit and miss for him, every time he hit a bit of form he either got injured or got the suspension. I think there is a decent player there but he needs quality around him to push him to te next level which he hasn't really had. I don't think hes had enough time with us to decide and for value for money, at this point, I think we've certainly had far worse strikers than him.
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| Jacey 22 Aug 16 9.22pm |
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Originally posted by Icepick Tony
Fair enough, i really dont think there is is any substitute for game time in competitive leagues though. Alli had 4 seasons with MK before going to spurs, 2 of those with 30+ games. He also has a wealth of quality around him now and some players do develop very quickly or are just exceptionally gifted at an early age. Wickham didn't get bought young because he was no good though did he? Last season was very hit and miss for him, every time he hit a bit of form he either got injured or got the suspension. I think there is a decent player there but he needs quality around him to push him to te next level which he hasn't really had. I don't think hes had enough time with us to decide and for value for money, at this point, I think we've certainly had far worse strikers than him. I agree and if paired with Benteke,we could see the start of a fantastic high scoring partnership,which will be so positive for all of us,fingers crossed.
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| Username Horsham 23 Aug 16 1.38pm |
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Originally posted by Shootylooty
Take on board your points - but 23 isn't terribly young and immature given today's game (Deli Ali is 20)? I agree he can strike the ball and scored a couple of good goals last season, but he has an immobile style which neither helps himself when easily marked or the team in servicing him. I don't believe that he reads the game well either and always seems to react too late. We'll see if he learns from Benteke - personally I can't see that it will change his game - because although you say that he is young, his style of play is already ingrained even at at his age and I don't think he's got what it takes. Edited by Shootylooty (22 Aug 2016 8.52pm)
Last season Wickham showed he is more than capable when given the opportunity and a run of games.
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| DivingIsNotGood se25 18 Sep 16 7.51am |
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Originally posted by Username
Last season Wickham showed he is more than capable when given the opportunity and a run of games. Why is CW often drifting around out on the wing and taking throw-ins, in the final third of the pitch? Shouldn't he be in the middle of the pitch when we are crossing?
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Henry of Peckham  Eton Mess 18 Sep 16 8.43am |
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Originally posted by DivingIsNotGood
Why is CW often drifting around out on the wing and taking throw-ins, in the final third of the pitch? Shouldn't he be in the middle of the pitch when we are crossing? Presumably, he's been told to do that? It does seem rather odd because, as you point out, you'd expect the striker to be in the box. Hopefully, that's all changed with the arrival of Benteke but we shall see!
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bodge  18 Sep 16 10.49am |
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We have seen how good he can be no question he is a very good striker. I believe he is holding back because he is feeling an injury its very hard to commit yourself 100% when you are in pain. I would not like to defend a set piece with Wickham, Benteke, Dann, Delaney and Ledley in the box.
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| Hoof Hearted 18 Sep 16 11.02am | |
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Originally posted by Croydonlad
CW does not need to better his game Are you Connor's Dad? Benteke has signed and made a good start converting a deep cross from Wilf into a goal against Boro. When do you anticipate Connor submitting a transfer request?
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| matthau South Croydon 18 Sep 16 11.03am |
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cw is now back up for benteke. I doubt to become a strike partner. I think the notion of two up front will be dropped til remy is back. he's a good solid prem squad player.
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| eagle@ tn34 hastings 18 Sep 16 9.42pm |
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Dont understand wy CW wasnt brought on around the 80 min mark.
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| moylerg Cofton Hackett, Worcestershire 18 Sep 16 9.45pm |
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Originally posted by heff75
Wickham is crap.When he signed for us for 8mil I thought to myself, that good money down the drain...When he's not scoring goals which is more often then not he's injured (at least then he has an excuse) Playing him is like playing with 10 men I deduce that unfortunately your opinion is bollocks (meaning factually incorrect). So, he is either not scoring goals or injured. Lol. I would agree that playing him if he is injured is wrong, like playing with 10 men
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| Dan89 Se25 19 Sep 16 12.20pm |
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With benteke arrival, connor now back up. He had his season to impress. Unfortunately for him, he suffered injuries and is unlikely to dislodge benteke.
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