First Black Palace player
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 dg1937  09 Oct 16 10.26am |
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Was chatting to a friend who supports another club and got into a 'who was your first black player' conversation. Without Google - who do you think was the first black player for Palace? In this context 'black' includes someone of mixed heritage. I'm interested to see if you come up with the same (wrong) name I did.
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| chris123 hove actually 09 Oct 16 10.33am |
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Tommy.
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| Joe Bloggs Nr Norwich 09 Oct 16 10.40am |
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Tony Collins
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| eagle in cornwall Made In Thornton Heath. 09 Oct 16 10.53am |
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Originally posted by Joe Bloggs
Tony Collins I spoke with Tony a few year's back and surprisingly he didn't agree with that.
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| dg1937 09 Oct 16 12.01pm |
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I'm afraid the best I could do was Vince Hilaire, not very good I know. I'd be very interested to hear more about Tony Collins, especially what the man himself had to say (if he wasn't the first, did he say who was?!). Did he experience much racism? I remember the dreadful treatment Clyde Best used to get when he played for West Ham. I see there's actually a book about him which I'm tempted to get.
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| dg1937 09 Oct 16 12.03pm |
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Originally posted by Joe Bloggs
Tony Collins Very good. Just to add a topical note (if that's allowed in a nostalgia forum) I distinctly remember Tommy scoring with a free kick under a wall that jumped. Sorry, I meant to quote chris123.
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| Joe Bloggs Nr Norwich 09 Oct 16 3.33pm |
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I have watched league football at the Palace since the first post ww11 season and Tony Collins was the first black. player that I ever watched. I have an idea that we signed him from Rochdale but am open to correction on that.
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| JRW2 Dulwich 09 Oct 16 4.48pm |
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Originally posted by Joe Bloggs
I have watched league football at the Palace since the first post ww11 season and Tony Collins was the first black. player that I ever watched. I have an idea that we signed him from Rochdale but am open to correction on that. No, he left us for Rochdale, whom he also managed for a few years.
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| ex hibitionist Hastings 10 Oct 16 8.30pm |
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early 70s Mark Lindsay
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| PalacePhotoMan Wallington 11 Oct 16 7.24pm |
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Tony Collins joined Palace from Watford in November 1957. He was at Watford for only 3 or 4 months as in May 1957 he played for Torquay at Selhurst, as shown below, challenging Vic Rouse. Jack Edwards is our defender. He left us in the summer of 1959 and joined Rochdale. After that he had a long and successful career as a coach and was manager of Rochdale for 7 years from 1960 to 67 (becoming known as the "first black football manager" I think he would be regarded as our first black player, joining in Nov 1957, but I could be wrong if there was another before him.
Zaha, Williams, Murray, Ambrose, Scannell. A 5-man forward line who scored 3 goals in 10 minutes on 27th September 2011 at ....................... |
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and also briefly at Bristol City in about 1980. I believe he worked at Man Utd as a scout for many years after that.
Attachment: | Penge Eagle Beckenham 12 Oct 16 7.17pm |
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I did a short piece on him here: [Link] He has an autobiography just out too: [Link]
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| moylerg Cofton Hackett, Worcestershire 12 Oct 16 7.23pm |
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Originally posted by ex hibitionist
early 70s Mark Lindsay My family were friends with his family. He used to get us tickets when I was a teenager. Remember Mark well.
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