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jamiemartin721 Reading 09 Jan 17 5.23pm
'Animal Farm' and 'Down and Out in London and Paris' are not better than '1984'. That's hipster double-speak. Nothing Orwell wrote really eclipsed '1984'. In fact very little written in the 20th Century eclipsed '1984', and in its genre maybe only 'The Handmaids Tale' really comes close. So whilst those two books are very good, they're nothing on 1984, and only a double-speaking no good enemy of the state would say otherwise. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 09 Jan 17 5.23pm

'Animal Farm' and 'Down and Out in London and Paris' are not better than '1984'.

That's hipster double-speak. Nothing Orwell wrote really eclipsed '1984'. In fact very little written in the 20th Century eclipsed '1984', and in its genre maybe only 'The Handmaids Tale' really comes close.

So whilst those two books are very good, they're nothing on 1984, and only a double-speaking no good enemy of the state would say otherwise.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
[Link]

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jeeagles 09 Jan 17 5.24pm
All the terrorist attacks/incidents that seem to happen in Britain have two things in common. 1) They are all wrongens 2) They are all from the British Isles. This stabbing - British Joe Cox murder - British Lee Rigby murderer - British 7/7 Bombers - British IRA/Ulster Unionist - (both as bad as each other) -Irish/British Yet its always much easier to blame something external than look at the internal problems. So the press bang on about Immigration, the EU, Muslims etc.
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09 Jan 17 5.24pm

All the terrorist attacks/incidents that seem to happen in Britain have two things in common.

1) They are all wrongens
2) They are all from the British Isles.

This stabbing - British
Joe Cox murder - British
Lee Rigby murderer - British
7/7 Bombers - British
IRA/Ulster Unionist - (both as bad as each other) -Irish/British

Yet its always much easier to blame something external than look at the internal problems. So the press bang on about Immigration, the EU, Muslims etc.

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Sedlescombe Sedlescombe 09 Jan 17 5.24pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Big Brother actually derived from socialism and that is highly plausible and insightful when you look at liberal/socialist attitudes. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (09 Jan 2017 5.21pm) Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (09 Jan 2017 5.22pm) Big Brother is the opposite of liberalism
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Sedlescombe 09 Jan 17 5.24pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Big Brother actually derived from socialism and that is highly plausible and insightful when you look at liberal/socialist attitudes.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (09 Jan 2017 5.21pm)

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (09 Jan 2017 5.22pm)

Big Brother is the opposite of liberalism

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Sedlescombe Sedlescombe 09 Jan 17 5.25pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 'Animal Farm' and 'Down and Out in London and Paris' are not better than '1984'. That's hipster double-speak. Nothing Orwell wrote really eclipsed '1984'. In fact very little written in the 20th Century eclipsed '1984', and in its genre maybe only 'The Handmaids Tale' really comes close. So whilst those two books are very good, they're nothing on 1984, and only a double-speaking no good enemy of the state would say otherwise. Oh yes it is...
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Sedlescombe 09 Jan 17 5.25pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

'Animal Farm' and 'Down and Out in London and Paris' are not better than '1984'.

That's hipster double-speak. Nothing Orwell wrote really eclipsed '1984'. In fact very little written in the 20th Century eclipsed '1984', and in its genre maybe only 'The Handmaids Tale' really comes close.

So whilst those two books are very good, they're nothing on 1984, and only a double-speaking no good enemy of the state would say otherwise.

Oh yes it is...

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 09 Jan 17 5.26pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 'Animal Farm' and 'Down and Out in London and Paris' are not better than '1984'. That's hipster double-speak. Nothing Orwell wrote really eclipsed '1984'. In fact very little written in the 20th Century eclipsed '1984', and in its genre maybe only 'The Handmaids Tale' really comes close. So whilst those two books are very good, they're nothing on 1984, and only a double-speaking no good enemy of the state would say otherwise. Double plus ungood.
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Shizzlehurst 09 Jan 17 5.26pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

'Animal Farm' and 'Down and Out in London and Paris' are not better than '1984'.

So whilst those two books are very good, they're nothing on 1984, and only a double-speaking no good enemy of the state would say otherwise.

Double plus ungood.

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Hrolf The Ganger 09 Jan 17 5.26pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 'Animal Farm' and 'Down and Out in London and Paris' are not better than '1984'. That's hipster double-speak. Nothing Orwell wrote really eclipsed '1984'. In fact very little written in the 20th Century eclipsed '1984', and in its genre maybe only 'The Handmaids Tale' really comes close. So whilst those two books are very good, they're nothing on 1984, and only a double-speaking no good enemy of the state would say otherwise. Agreed. 1984 is a masterpiece of insightful fiction. So much so that it is actually frightening.
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721

'Animal Farm' and 'Down and Out in London and Paris' are not better than '1984'.

So whilst those two books are very good, they're nothing on 1984, and only a double-speaking no good enemy of the state would say otherwise.

Agreed. 1984 is a masterpiece of insightful fiction.

So much so that it is actually frightening.

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Sedlescombe Sedlescombe 09 Jan 17 5.27pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Double plus ungood. All the books are good but some are more good than others
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Sedlescombe 09 Jan 17 5.27pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Double plus ungood.

All the books are good but some are more good than others

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Hrolf The Ganger 09 Jan 17 5.29pm
Originally posted by Sedlescombe Big Brother is the opposite of liberalism In theory, but liberalism has become everything that it opposes. It is the arrogance and lack of self awareness that makes it so dangerous.
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Hrolf The Ganger

09 Jan 17 5.29pm

Originally posted by Sedlescombe

Big Brother is the opposite of liberalism

In theory, but liberalism has become everything that it opposes.
It is the arrogance and lack of self awareness that makes it so dangerous.

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Sedlescombe Sedlescombe 09 Jan 17 5.32pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger In theory, but liberalism has become everything that it opposes. It is the arrogance and lack of self awareness that makes it so dangerous. Arrogance and lack of self awareness even if true arent arguments for liberals favouring big brother. Indeed one of the few principles that the party didnt rat on by going into coalition was in opposing attempts by May to increase BB and the surveillance state
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Sedlescombe 09 Jan 17 5.32pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

In theory, but liberalism has become everything that it opposes.
It is the arrogance and lack of self awareness that makes it so dangerous.

Arrogance and lack of self awareness even if true arent arguments for liberals favouring big brother. Indeed one of the few principles that the party didnt rat on by going into coalition was in opposing attempts by May to increase BB and the surveillance state

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 09 Jan 17 5.32pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Big Brother actually derived from socialism and that is highly plausible and insightful when you look at liberal/socialist attitudes. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (09 Jan 2017 5.21pm) Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (09 Jan 2017 5.22pm) Is May a socialist then?
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Shizzlehurst 09 Jan 17 5.32pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Big Brother actually derived from socialism and that is highly plausible and insightful when you look at liberal/socialist attitudes.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (09 Jan 2017 5.21pm)

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (09 Jan 2017 5.22pm)

Is May a socialist then?

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Hrolf The Ganger 09 Jan 17 5.32pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Double plus ungood. "Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one’s mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them".
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Hrolf The Ganger

09 Jan 17 5.32pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Double plus ungood.

"Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one’s mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them".

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Hrolf The Ganger 09 Jan 17 5.34pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Is May a socialist then? Swerving again?
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09 Jan 17 5.34pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Is May a socialist then?

Swerving again?

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