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Kermit8 Hevon 13 Dec 16 6.18pm | |
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Originally posted by Michaelawt85
Read john francomes comments. Seems a strange thing for him to say! Seemed very respectful and insightful. The fall 20 years sounds like he was at death's door even back then.
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martin2412 Living The Dream 13 Dec 16 7.07pm | |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
Shergar's Derby victory in 1981. I was there as usual (when the Derby was run on a Wednesday afternoon). Had a wedge on him at Even's and won a packet. Won by 10 lengths at a canter, slowing down near the finish. Swinburn was a talented jockey and was right up there with Piggott, Lewis, Mercer, Eddery, Carson etc in the golden age of flat racing. RIP Walter. I don't know about the rest Hoof, but I can't agree about Carson. In my opinion he was as bent as they come, and I witnessed it first hand. I was at a track up north (I think it was Wolverhampton) in the mid to late eighties, when a bloke in front of me gave the bookie a roll of notes and said '10 grand on ..... (whatever it was Carson was on)'. I placed my bet with the same bookie then watched him have a quiet word with his runner, who then ran straight across the course, right to the other side. He went straight to Carson and had a conversation with him. Carson was on the favourite and it finished second to last I think. To say fishy is an understatement and I never backed anything he rode from then on. Having said that, they're probably all at it. RIP Walter.
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PalazioVecchio south pole 14 Dec 16 12.37am | |
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RiP Walter. There is no weighing scales in heaven.
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Hoof Hearted 14 Dec 16 11.27am | |
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Originally posted by martin2412
I don't know about the rest Hoof, but I can't agree about Carson. In my opinion he was as bent as they come, and I witnessed it first hand. I was at a track up north (I think it was Wolverhampton) in the mid to late eighties, when a bloke in front of me gave the bookie a roll of notes and said '10 grand on ..... (whatever it was Carson was on)'. I placed my bet with the same bookie then watched him have a quiet word with his runner, who then ran straight across the course, right to the other side. He went straight to Carson and had a conversation with him. Carson was on the favourite and it finished second to last I think. To say fishy is an understatement and I never backed anything he rode from then on. Having said that, they're probably all at it. RIP Walter. I have no knowledge of who might have been a bent jockey back then or indeed now, but I do know that Grade 1 and classic races like the Derby are strictly run to form because of the rewards in prize money and stud fees. It's quite hard to 'pull' a horse in a race and avoid the scrutiny of the stewards at Epsom, but might be achievable at Wolverhampton in a selling race? Wiki shows him to have won 17 classic races and was champion jockey 5 times. He also won the Derby 4 times... I was on Troy and Henbit. You know what you saw though and I don't disbelieve you, but my experience of betting on his horses was reasonably profitable in the 70's/80's.
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Michaelawt85 Bexley 14 Dec 16 4.04pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Seemed very respectful and insightful. The fall 20 years sounds like he was at death's door even back then. No that wasn't what I meant. Does sound respectful its what he was saying not the tone.
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