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View speediej's Profile speediej Flag Northampton 04 Jan 17 1.53pm Send a Private Message to speediej Add speediej as a friend

Like everyone else I was utterly disappointed with yesterday. Everyone keeps saying 'we're down' etc and at first I said the same but I stood back and thought about these points:

Sam has only been here for about nine, ten days and has had 3 games in that time. He probably hasn't had anytime to get to know the players and his best team.

He managed to keep a very poor Sunderland side up last year when they were in the bottom three, we aren't and I very much suspect that for the FA Cup game he won't be playing our main side, so he now has two weeks to work with the team and work out the players and how to get the players back to their best form.

2 days before the Swansea game we played Arsenal, and although they weren't at their best either, they are still a great team with the ball and would have knackered out players out and I generally believe that if we would of had longer to rest and talk tactics etc, we would of won that game, so that is a bit of bad luck.

So what I am saying is, don't give up and get behind the team. A few seasons ago everyone would of been happy staying up and our team isn't fantastic anyway, and it has also been played about by Pardew. In two weeks time I think we will see a much better display at West Ham and if I am wrong then fair enough, but don't give up yet as we have been able to turn these relegation situations around before with a worse side.

Just trying to find some positive thinking and get the fans believing again

Edited by speediej (04 Jan 2017 1.58pm)

 


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View speediej's Profile speediej Flag Northampton 04 Jan 17 1.55pm Send a Private Message to speediej Add speediej as a friend

I dont know why it posted twice, just deleting one

Edited by speediej (04 Jan 2017 1.56pm)

 


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View Cucking Funt's Profile Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 04 Jan 17 1.59pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by speediej

Like everyone else I was utterly disappointed with yesterday. Everyone keeps saying 'we're down' etc and at first I said the same but I stood back and thought about these points:

Sam has only been here for about nine, ten days and has had 3 games in that time. He probably hasn't had anytime to get to know the players and his best team.

He managed to keep a very poor Sunderland side up last year when they were in the bottom three, we aren't and I very much suspect that for the FA Cup game he won't be playing our main side, so he now has two weeks to work with the team and work out the players and how to get the players back to their best form.

2 days before the Swansea game we played Arsenal, and although they weren't aren't their best either, they are still a great team with the ball and would have knackered out players out and I generally believe that if we would of had longer to rest and talk tactics etc, we would of won that game, so that is a bit of bad luck.

So what I am saying is, don't give up and get behind the team. A few seasons ago everyone would of been happy staying up and our team isn't fantastic anyway, and it has also been played about by Pardew. In two weeks time I think we will see a much better display at West Ham and if I am wrong then fair enough, but don't give up yet as we have been able to turn these relegation situations around before with a worse side.

Just trying to find some positive thinking and get the fans believing again

Very good post. There are many twists and turns to come this season. We'll stay up.

 


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View Beastie's Profile Beastie Flag 04 Jan 17 2.05pm Send a Private Message to Beastie Add Beastie as a friend

We’ve got the perfect man for this job with half a season, a transfer window and plenty of talented players already at his disposal.

Might take a while to turn around but it will.

 

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View AperfieldEagle's Profile AperfieldEagle Flag Bromley 04 Jan 17 2.33pm Send a Private Message to AperfieldEagle Add AperfieldEagle as a friend

True, we have stayed up before with a worse side. But that worse side was full of leaders and had an abundance of team spirit and togetherness, which, quite frankly, seems to have abandoned us this season. The individuals were not brilliant in the worst sides of old, but we showed grit and determination to raise our game beyond our expectations and quality level. A true team effort.

This season, the quality in terms of individuals is most definitely there but we are not seeing the level of cohesion we had seen from teams of old.

Perhaps this has something to do with the soul being ripped out of our side. The first instance of this was when Jedinak was replaced as captain whilst he was still a Palace player - which was poor management in my opinion. The second instance where the soul disappeared completely was with the sales of Jedinak and Murray (and possibly Gayle). The character of these players being in and around the dressing room, i feel, was key to our success.

Like you said, we shall see in the coming weeks and months what the future will hold for us. Right now it does not bode well. I think by the West Ham game we will still be a bag of nerves.

Hopefully we recruit well and as fans we get behind the team to retain our premier league status.

 

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View Bangell's Profile Bangell Flag Oxford 04 Jan 17 2.34pm Send a Private Message to Bangell Add Bangell as a friend

I just checked and Sam only picked up 6 points in his first 11 Sunderland games, so early judgement is certainly stupid. The worrying thing is that he took charge of Sunderland halfway through October rather than at the end of December... It's going to require a very fast turn-around, and maybe more than the promised £20 million for January transfers.

 

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View Username's Profile Username Flag Horsham 04 Jan 17 2.49pm Send a Private Message to Username Add Username as a friend

Originally posted by Bangell

I just checked and Sam only picked up 6 points in his first 11 Sunderland games, so early judgement is certainly stupid. The worrying thing is that he took charge of Sunderland halfway through October rather than at the end of December... It's going to require a very fast turn-around, and maybe more than the promised £20 million for January transfers.

I think SP made the decision he did knowing we'd probably still struggle through this period.

We now have a less hectic schedule and the opportunity to work with the players, and bring some new ones in.

 


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bubble wrap Flag Carparks in South East London 04 Jan 17 2.58pm

I am confident we will stay up. Sam will sort things out. A good transfer window is needed and when we have the likes of Remy,Wickham to call on with Benteke things will improve.
Team looked knackered and i think Pardew has to shoulder the blame for the lack of fitness at the club. Millen needs to go as well.

 

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View Andy_G's Profile Andy_G Flag Wimbledon 04 Jan 17 2.58pm Send a Private Message to Andy_G Add Andy_G as a friend

Originally posted by AperfieldEagle

True, we have stayed up before with a worse side. But that worse side was full of leaders and had an abundance of team spirit and togetherness, which, quite frankly, seems to have abandoned us this season. The individuals were not brilliant in the worst sides of old, but we showed grit and determination to raise our game beyond our expectations and quality level. A true team effort.

This season, the quality in terms of individuals is most definitely there but we are not seeing the level of cohesion we had seen from teams of old.

Perhaps this has something to do with the soul being ripped out of our side. The first instance of this was when Jedinak was replaced as captain whilst he was still a Palace player - which was poor management in my opinion. The second instance where the soul disappeared completely was with the sales of Jedinak and Murray (and possibly Gayle). The character of these players being in and around the dressing room, i feel, was key to our success.

Like you said, we shall see in the coming weeks and months what the future will hold for us. Right now it does not bode well. I think by the West Ham game we will still be a bag of nerves.

Hopefully we recruit well and as fans we get behind the team to retain our premier league status.

The management sold or benched it and now we are left with mentally lightweight players with no never say die attitude. Deeply depressing

 


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