So I was interested in whether my perception was right and we were unfit. So I went through every game and worked out what the result would have been if all goals (scored and conceded) between minutes 41-45+ and 86-90+ weren't counted.

Here's what I found*

Bournemouth 0-1
Spurs 0-1
West Bromwich 0-1
Everton 1-1
Sunderland 2-2
Stoke 4-0
Mboro 1-1
Liverpool 2-3
Leicester 1-2
West Ham 0-1
Swansea 4-3
Man City 1-2
Burnley 2-2
Watford 1-1
Chelsea 0-0
Man U 1-0
Hull 2-3
Southampton 2-0
Swansea 1-0
Arsenal 0-1
West ham 0-2
Everton 0-0

By my reckoning we would have 22 points and be 15th... and with a healthy gap to the relegation spots. There wouldn't have been so many consecutive losses either.

To be absolutely fair, it's a small sample size and very possible we were unlucky in a handful of games, creating a negative points swing.

But in my mind, we have struggled throughout the season to maintain intensity. Games became loose and broken toward the ends of halves and we frequently dropped deep to try and hang on.

Hopefully Allardyce can get our fitness right up very quickly -- a big ask in the depths of winter when he also has to re-teach the team basic defending.

*Apols for any errors. Done in good faith.

EDITED FOR WEST HAM AND EVERTON RESULTS. DO FEEL THERE ARE SIGNS FITNESS IS IMPROVING UNDER SA THOUGH.

Edited by Ginger Pubic Wig (22 Jan 2017 10.41am)

Edited by Ginger Pubic Wig (22 Jan 2017 10.48am)

If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.

Bump.

If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.

While not disagreeing with the physical fitness aspect, I think mental toughness is also a big factor.

It's easier to dig out that bit extra physically when you are winning, but our players looked wracked with anxiety.

Sadly, we have got into a habit of losing - 12 months of it now. That's not going to change over night.

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THREAD nicked by the BBS. Nice.

Insufficient fitness has a huge impact on concentration. You play even the most basic level of sport and that is obvious.

If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.

Was an auto correct indeed. Info comes from a friend who is mates with a former player who is heavily involved in the game still. "Apparently" is added because I haven't heard big Sam say that himself. Not worth sharing stuff that you hear on here sometimes.

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Agreed.

"We love you Palace, we f@cking hate Man U, We love you Palace, we hate the brighton too, We love you Palace we play in red 'n' blue, so f@ck you, and you ...