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View the.universal's Profile the.universal 27 Feb 18 10.34pm Send a Private Message to the.universal Add the.universal as a friend

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

As I have said about 87 times - Parish should keep a hold of the club but recognize he is a woefully inept chairman when it comes to transfers and managerial matters.

He is a businessman, and should run the non footballing matters at the club.

Give those other tasks, lock stock, to someone already at the club or bring a fresh face in.

Then we might actually:

Sell some dead wood for once....
Have a proper goalkeeper the manager actually wants to play, and more than 1....
Be able to properly run a transfer window....
Have actual squad depth in key areas like up front

As Parish often says "the sun will come up" even if we go down, but it will hamper the development of the stadium, and all the rest of the things we should be modernizing. I know Parish has done a lot there (an area where he actually does know his a^se from his elbow) but of course more is needed.

Parish inept in managerial appointments?! Whatever he can be accused of it’s not that. Holloway (to get us up) Pulis, Allardyce, Pardew, Hodgson. The good far outweighs the bad.

 


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View Dancer Cat's Profile Dancer Cat Flag Farnborough 27 Feb 18 10.42pm Send a Private Message to Dancer Cat Add Dancer Cat as a friend

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Whats your point? That we had some sh&t players and managers in the past? Yep....

And....?

Ade Akinbiyi was a poor man's Cameron Jerome. Alex Kolinko was poor man's Alex Mccarthy. Trevor Francis was a poor man's George Burley.

I have followed Palace all my life, which stretches back a bit further than 5 years ago (believe it or not )

I have 7 words which might mean something to you:

Steve Parish is a totally inept chairman.

No he is not!

The Oystons,that Cellino chap, Ashley - They're all totally inept chairman.

Steve's better than most - incl. (by some distance) Uncle Ron

But

He isn't learning from his mistakes & (more worryingly) he seems to be too keen to play Russian roulette to ensure we get a good deal, which is just resulting in lost acquisitions (Niasse) & too late acquisitions (Guaita)

The fact that Pulis & Allardyce both jumped ship + the fact Roy will prob do the same after the Guaita fiasco mean SP's tenure is rapidly erasing the credits with debits.

 

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View Jamesey's Profile Jamesey Flag Wandsworth 27 Feb 18 11.52pm Send a Private Message to Jamesey Add Jamesey as a friend

Originally posted by NickinOX

Well, simply put, that's silly. It is not supported by the evidence.

Main points in his favor: He purchased the club in 2010; the team got promoted in 2013; we have been to one cup final (only our second proper cup final ever); we have achieved the longest consecutive period in the top flight in the club's 113 years of history; the club has had four of its highest ever league finishes; the club owns its own ground (again); they have improved the facilities (although there is a way to go); they have plans in place to expand the ground (also a ways to go); we have one of our best ever first 11, with only the 1990-91 side clearly better (albeit most of the current lot seem to be semi-permanently injured).

Main points against: consecutive poor transfer windows; over-promises when he should keep quiet; imbalanced squad (albeit one horrifically ravaged by injuries); troubles with FFP (presumably because of some of the dross still on the books); we have struggled to hold onto managers (although that has not always been his fault); hmmm, that's about it.

So, we have had four of our best six (or seven) finishes in the league ever, only our second ever proper cup final, and we have been in the top division for a longer consecutive spell than in our entire history and yet, you claim, he is totally inept.

That is simply put, bizarre.

The above post relieves me the effort of saying it myself...a totally accurate and fair analysis of CPFC 2010's enormous and admirable record. Steve only became chairman at a later stage after the group of Palace supporting businessmen saved us from 10 years of Jordan chaos.

It is hard for a veteran supporter to understand why the whine of criticism still goes on and on here. Yes mistakes have been made...to err is human.

On the whole, the mistakes are small compared with the club's progress and prospective improvements.

Edited by Jamesey (27 Feb 2018 11.55pm)

 


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View grumpymort's Profile grumpymort Flag US/Thailand/UK 28 Feb 18 12.40am Send a Private Message to grumpymort Add grumpymort as a friend

Originally posted by the.universal

Parish inept in managerial appointments?! Whatever he can be accused of it’s not that. Holloway (to get us up) Pulis, Allardyce, Pardew, Hodgson. The good far outweighs the bad.


you should remove holloway that guy almost cost us getting promoted Freedman was the guy who put us in promotion spot.

the other thing is you are half telling the story pulis and allardyce both walked after 1 season and pardew dont care he got us to cup final that bloke is a joke and we paid newcastle something like 5-6m for him

 


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View thai-eagle's Profile thai-eagle Flag chiang mai 28 Feb 18 2.51am Send a Private Message to thai-eagle Add thai-eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Jamesey

The above post relieves me the effort of saying it myself...a totally accurate and fair analysis of CPFC 2010's enormous and admirable record. Steve only became chairman at a later stage after the group of Palace supporting businessmen saved us from 10 years of Jordan chaos.

It is hard for a veteran supporter to understand why the whine of criticism still goes on and on here. Yes mistakes have been made...to err is human.

On the whole, the mistakes are small compared with the club's progress and prospective improvements.

Edited by Jamesey (27 Feb 2018 11.55pm)

Second that...wholeheartedly!

 

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View AppleSource's Profile AppleSource Flag Tel Aviv 28 Feb 18 7.59am Send a Private Message to AppleSource Add AppleSource as a friend

This post has been merged from a topic called 'A Passionate Defence OF Steve Parish ' by Midlands Eagle

It seems to be popular consensus to blame Parish for our current predicament, whether it be his appointment of De Boer or his lack of investment in the transfer windows. Whilst there is indeed a reasonable case to be made, those that criticise must recognise that it is only by virtue of Parish that we are in existence and in the PL, let alone enjoying our fifth consecutive season in it. You may point to a lack of managerial stability in recent years, but we simply speculate on reasons for this. Considering the circumstances we have found ourselves in (vis a vis Pulis, Big Sam, etc), I doubt that you would find many chairmen capable of weathering the storm and keeping us up. It is easy to jump on the bandwagon, but I am convinced that Parish is the best man for the job, and although I regrettably predict us being relegated (in no small part due to our unprecedented injury crisis), with Parish we stand as good a chance as anyone of returning to the PL.

 

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This post has been merged from a topic called 'A Passionate Defence OF Steve Parish ' by Midlands Eagle

Don’t give up on the PL too early, although I think over the next couple of games we’ll slip into the bottom three, we’ve then a series of very winnable games and players returning from injury, which should enable us to pull clear again.

 

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View AppleSource's Profile AppleSource Flag Tel Aviv 28 Feb 18 8.19am Send a Private Message to AppleSource Add AppleSource as a friend

This post has been merged from a topic called 'A Passionate Defence OF Steve Parish ' by Midlands Eagle

It seems to be popular consensus to blame Parish for our current predicament, whether it be his appointment of De Boer or his lack of investment in the transfer windows. Whilst there is indeed a reasonable case to be made, those that criticise must recognise that it is only by virtue of Parish that we are in existence and in the PL, let alone enjoying our fifth consecutive season in it. You may point to a lack of managerial stability in recent years, but we simply speculate on reasons for this. Considering the circumstances we have found ourselves in (vis a vis Pulis, Big Sam, etc), I doubt that you would find many chairmen capable of weathering the storm and keeping us up. It is easy to jump on the bandwagon, but I am convinced that Parish is the best man for the job, and although I regrettably predict us being relegated (in no small part due to our unprecedented injury crisis), with Parish we stand as good a chance as anyone of returning to the PL.

 

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This post has been merged from a topic called 'A Passionate Defence OF Steve Parish ' by Midlands Eagle

Originally posted by AppleSource

It seems to be popular consensus to blame Parish for our current predicament, whether it be his appointment of De Boer or his lack of investment in the transfer windows. Whilst there is indeed a reasonable case to be made, those that criticise must recognise that it is only by virtue of Parish that we are in existence and in the PL, let alone enjoying our fifth consecutive season in it. You may point to a lack of managerial stability in recent years, but we simply speculate on reasons for this. Considering the circumstances we have found ourselves in (vis a vis Pulis, Big Sam, etc), I doubt that you would find many chairmen capable of weathering the storm and keeping us up. It is easy to jump on the bandwagon, but I am convinced that Parish is the best man for the job, and although I regrettably predict us being relegated (in no small part due to our unprecedented injury crisis), with Parish we stand as good a chance as anyone of returning to the PL.

Have a day off Steve
Haven’t you got some water skiing to do?

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 28 Feb 18 8.35am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

This post has been merged from a topic called 'A Passionate Defence OF Steve Parish ' by Midlands Eagle

It's not personal, it's the same old mistakes repeating, unprecedented injuries include players we have bought known to be sick notes, sorry, the " if he can stay healthy " transfer.

Rather than have a chairman who from time to time does an interview asnd wistfully regrets his mistakes, can we have a professional who makes fewer mistakes.

If by luck we stay up this year it will only be delaying the inevitable

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 28 Feb 18 8.42am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

This post has been merged from a topic called 'A Passionate Defence OF Steve Parish ' by Midlands Eagle

Originally posted by AppleSource

It seems to be popular consensus to blame Parish for our current predicament, whether it be his appointment of De Boer or his lack of investment in the transfer windows. Whilst there is indeed a reasonable case to be made, those that criticise must recognise that it is only by virtue of Parish that we are in existence and in the PL, let alone enjoying our fifth consecutive season in it. You may point to a lack of managerial stability in recent years, but we simply speculate on reasons for this. Considering the circumstances we have found ourselves in (vis a vis Pulis, Big Sam, etc), I doubt that you would find many chairmen capable of weathering the storm and keeping us up. It is easy to jump on the bandwagon, but I am convinced that Parish is the best man for the job, and although I regrettably predict us being relegated (in no small part due to our unprecedented injury crisis), with Parish we stand as good a chance as anyone of returning to the PL.

I still believe we can stay up but I agree with your defence of SP. We all want managerial stability but we are not alone. There are only 5 Premier league managers who have served 3 or more years with the same club. If they are no good they get sacked and if you do get a good one chances are a bigger club will poach them.

 


One more point

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 28 Feb 18 9.23am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Question. If Roy retired and Parish got in a decent manager, would you be happier with Roy completely running the club's transfers and policy than Parish? Or would you rely on Parish learning from this season's mistakes?

No need to claim people want Parish out then, is there?

Anyone? Or is it Parish controls everything or we hang him from the arfur gantry?

 


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