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View cpj's Profile cpj Flag Kent 17 May 17 3.08pm Send a Private Message to cpj Add cpj as a friend

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

Is it safe to assume that the standard of today's goalkeepers is deteriorating then, if half the premier leagues clubs have a worse goalkeeper than Wayne Hennessy?

Come on now. Be honest. He's had an OK season. No great calamities like the Villa one last season. The home game against Chelsea was his only big error, plus a few goals he could perhaps have done better with, depending on your viewpoint. The only thing I'd agree with you on is that he doesn't tend to have match-winning performances - Southampton last year is the last one I can honestly remember.

All keepers make mistakes - e.g. people keep saying we should go for Pickford but he made a bad error at the weekend. Unfortunately it is the one position where an error punishes you. Benteke might miss a few sitters but it is the goalie errors you tend to remember.

As I've said several times on here, I thought we should get rid of all 3 keepers and start afresh next season. However, now Parish has decided to give Speroni yet another year, that isn't going to happen, and we'll be in the same boat next season with either WH or a replacement having to be unfairly compared to Speroni all the time. Whether we get a new number one will I suppose depend on how much money Sam has to spend and what positions he sees as being more important to upgrade/replace.

 

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Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

Is it safe to assume that the standard of today's goalkeepers is deteriorating then, if half the premier leagues clubs have a worse goalkeeper than Wayne Hennessy?

Yes . All of those clubs would prefer goalkeepers from the past :-

Man City - Joe Corrigan
Liverpool - Ray Clemence
Everton - Neville Southall
West Ham - Phil Parkes
Bournemouth - don't know
Watford - Pat Jennings
Boro - Mark Schwarzer
Swansea - Don't know
Hull - Don't Know
Add -
Spurs - Pat Jennings
Arsenal - David Seaman
Man U - Peter Schmeichel
Leicester - Peter Shilton
Stoke - Gordon Banks
Palace - John Jackson.

Or am I /we all just living in the past a bit , and not taking into account how much the game has changed and how much the ball modern ball moves and makes the keepers look bad when they concede ?

All I know is that I watch football now and there are many more keeping 'errors' every week as opposed to the golden days of keeping.
Even DeGea , Lloris, Cech , are made to look mugs on many occasions.

 

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Originally posted by cpj

Come on now. Be honest. He's had an OK season. No great calamities like the Villa one last season. The home game against Chelsea was his only big error, plus a few goals he could perhaps have done better with, depending on your viewpoint. The only thing I'd agree with you on is that he doesn't tend to have match-winning performances - Southampton last year is the last one I can honestly remember.

All keepers make mistakes - e.g. people keep saying we should go for Pickford but he made a bad error at the weekend. Unfortunately it is the one position where an error punishes you. Benteke might miss a few sitters but it is the goalie errors you tend to remember.

As I've said several times on here, I thought we should get rid of all 3 keepers and start afresh next season. However, now Parish has decided to give Speroni yet another year, that isn't going to happen, and we'll be in the same boat next season with either WH or a replacement having to be unfairly compared to Speroni all the time. Whether we get a new number one will I suppose depend on how much money Sam has to spend and what positions he sees as being more important to upgrade/replace.

Good post.

 

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Interested to know:- would you get a 2nd/3rd choice if it meant that we could sign Sakho.

 


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Originally posted by CPFC/SCCC

Interested to know:- would you get a 2nd/3rd choice if it meant that we could sign Sakho.

I'd keep hennessey as #1 if it meant we could sign sakho.

 

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Wayne doesn't look a complete mug. Maybe not the very best, but there are worse. Let's just say in the scheme of things Palace don't really have a neccesity to replace him. Let's look at the barren scoring spells and the style of play that invites teams to attack. Address the lack of defensive cover if Palace are going to put themselves under constant pressure, leaving them to make last ditch desperate lunging tackles so often.
Instead of concentrating on meddling with a goal keepers confidence we should look for back up for Milo. Now Ledley is probably away this position is of greater importance. Another Jedhi required, no necessarily anothe keeper.

 

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Originally posted by cpj

Come on now. Be honest. He's had an OK season. No great calamities like the Villa one last season. The home game against Chelsea was his only big error, plus a few goals he could perhaps have done better with, depending on your viewpoint. The only thing I'd agree with you on is that he doesn't tend to have match-winning performances - Southampton last year is the last one I can honestly remember.

All keepers make mistakes - e.g. people keep saying we should go for Pickford but he made a bad error at the weekend. Unfortunately it is the one position where an error punishes you. Benteke might miss a few sitters but it is the goalie errors you tend to remember.

As I've said several times on here, I thought we should get rid of all 3 keepers and start afresh next season. However, now Parish has decided to give Speroni yet another year, that isn't going to happen, and we'll be in the same boat next season with either WH or a replacement having to be unfairly compared to Speroni all the time. Whether we get a new number one will I suppose depend on how much money Sam has to spend and what positions he sees as being more important to upgrade/replace.

How many saves did he make v Chelsea when we won 2-1.....I'd call that a match winning performance....

 

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View Ray in Houston's Profile Ray in Houston Flag Houston 17 May 17 6.19pm Send a Private Message to Ray in Houston Add Ray in Houston as a friend

Originally posted by spartakev2

How many saves did he make v Chelsea when we won 2-1.....I'd call that a match winning performance....

I agree completely that at Chelsea, his was a match-winning performance. The problem is that we struggle to scrape up any other games in which Hennessey made a game-saving stop - something that Speroni used to do consistently.

 


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Originally posted by Ray in Houston

I agree completely that at Chelsea, his was a match-winning performance. The problem is that we struggle to scrape up any other games in which Hennessey made a game-saving stop - something that Speroni used to do consistently.[/quote]

Mainly in the Championship, that's why he has been replaced.

 

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There were six teams in the PL who had a worse goals against record than us. One of them have a goal keeper
who is very highly rated. Just proves that a poor defence is not all down to the goal keeper, unless his name happens to be Hennessy and then every goal conceded is his fault according to many on this forum.

 


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View lefty27's Profile lefty27 Flag ipswich 17 May 17 6.47pm Send a Private Message to lefty27 Add lefty27 as a friend

After the match on Sunday y I met Wayne, genuinely nice bloke. Signed my lads programme and had a pic, as he was walking away someone asked him if he was still going to be here next season to which he replied "I hope so". I have to admit feeling a little sorry for him, clearly knows he is not a fan favourite, he enjoys being part of the palace. We could do worse.....Stockdale

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whitehorselane Flag 17 May 17 7.02pm

Think if a teams have a bad patch then fans like to single out a scapegoat and Hennessey is an easy target and so has Kelly been

But I think both have proved to be invaluable, they both have spent time waiting for their chance and I think they have both had good seasons and proved they're good enough for the premier league

 

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