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trapperjohn Horsham 24 Mar 17 7.22pm
Originally posted by daven The Arsenal games,I went to both, didn't remember them being in the same week.I remember the league cup game.The first goal was a pen, if I remember correctly Arsenal were attacking and the ball was around the halfway line. Gerry Queen and the Arsenal goalie were having a bit of a argument and Gerry ended up on the floor. Was a bit weird because most people were watching the action (football) in the other half. The second was a nice shot from Taylor (not Colin ,the other one). Don't remember anything about the following Saturday except getting soaked at the clock end. It happened right in front of me. Ian Ure came in and upended Queen for no apparent reason other than perhaps to "protect" his keeper. Still one of the strangest things I have seen on a football pitch I got vision, and the rest of the world wears bifocals.
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Horsham 24 Mar 17 7.22pm

Originally posted by daven

The Arsenal games,I went to both, didn't remember them being in the same week.I remember the league cup game.The first goal was a pen, if I remember correctly Arsenal were attacking and the ball was around the halfway line. Gerry Queen and the Arsenal goalie were having a bit of a argument and Gerry ended up on the floor. Was a bit weird because most people were watching the action (football) in the other half. The second was a nice shot from Taylor (not Colin ,the other one).
Don't remember anything about the following Saturday except getting soaked at the clock end.

It happened right in front of me. Ian Ure came in and upended Queen for no apparent reason other than perhaps to "protect" his keeper. Still one of the strangest things I have seen on a football pitch

I got vision, and the rest of the world wears bifocals.

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Mo Sizlak 24 Mar 17 7.56pm
Relegation bluffer? Surely that was Pardew. Oh buffer! Babs and Clean Willie were in love they said....
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Mo Sizlak

24 Mar 17 7.56pm

Relegation bluffer? Surely that was Pardew.

Oh buffer!

Babs and Clean Willie were in love they said....

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 24 Mar 17 8.26pm
A slight "buffer" but we are still in a real battle to avoid the drop. There will be a few twists and turns until the end and we are in 'squeaky bum' territory.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 24 Mar 17 8.26pm

A slight "buffer" but we are still in a real battle to avoid the drop. There will be a few twists and turns until the end and we are in 'squeaky bum' territory.

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Holmesdale 1989 27 Mar 17 11.20pm
Originally posted by Eternal Optimist Palace ae effectively five points above Hull because we have a much better goal difference Ahead by 4. 5 is what puts us behind Hull.
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Originally posted by Eternal Optimist

Palace ae effectively five points above Hull because we have a much better goal difference

Ahead by 4.

5 is what puts us behind Hull.

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YT Oxford 30 Mar 17 11.43am
The pivotal game for us is Hull. Forgetting all other games for a moment (if possible!) a win against Hull puts us 7 points ahead of them (and 9 points ahead of Boro and 11 points ahead of Sunderland). Therefore, from their other 8 matches, Hull would need 8 points PLUS whatever points we pick up from our other 9 matches to overhaul us. Surely even the most ardent Holmesdale pessimist wouldn't expect us to lose all 9 of those games, but I reckon as few as 4 or 5 points from those 9 could be enough (beat Burnley, draw with Leicester and Southampton?). Of course this is a completely academic analysis, given that the Hull game is the penultimate one, and "lots could happen" before then to make Palace v Hull a classic "squeaky-bum" occasion! Also, Boro and/ or Sunderland could of course go on an Oldham, Leicester or Sunderland-esque end of season run (except I can't see it myself). And we might NOT beat Hull of course. However, I am optimistic that enough points can be harvested...and that not many points will actually be needed. Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Oxford 30 Mar 17 11.43am

The pivotal game for us is Hull. Forgetting all other games for a moment (if possible!) a win against Hull puts us 7 points ahead of them (and 9 points ahead of Boro and 11 points ahead of Sunderland). Therefore, from their other 8 matches, Hull would need 8 points PLUS whatever points we pick up from our other 9 matches to overhaul us. Surely even the most ardent Holmesdale pessimist wouldn't expect us to lose all 9 of those games, but I reckon as few as 4 or 5 points from those 9 could be enough (beat Burnley, draw with Leicester and Southampton?).

Of course this is a completely academic analysis, given that the Hull game is the penultimate one, and "lots could happen" before then to make Palace v Hull a classic "squeaky-bum" occasion! Also, Boro and/ or Sunderland could of course go on an Oldham, Leicester or Sunderland-esque end of season run (except I can't see it myself).

And we might NOT beat Hull of course. However, I am optimistic that enough points can be harvested...and that not many points will actually be needed.

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

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GladAllOver27 30 Mar 17 11.51am
Originally posted by YT The pivotal game for us is Hull. Forgetting all other games for a moment (if possible!) a win against Hull puts us 7 points ahead of them (and 9 points ahead of Boro and 11 points ahead of Sunderland). Therefore, from their other 8 matches, Hull would need 8 points PLUS whatever points we pick up from our other 9 matches to overhaul us. Surely even the most ardent Holmesdale pessimist wouldn't expect us to lose all 9 of those games, but I reckon as few as 4 or 5 points from those 9 could be enough (beat Burnley, draw with Leicester and Southampton?). Of course this is a completely academic analysis, given that the Hull game is the penultimate one, and "lots could happen" before then to make Palace v Hull a classic "squeaky-bum" occasion! Also, Boro and/ or Sunderland could of course go on an Oldham, Leicester or Sunderland-esque end of season run (except I can't see it myself). And we might NOT beat Hull of course. However, I am optimistic that enough points can be harvested...and that not many points will actually be needed. How can you say it will be a 7 point gap if we beat hull. There's 8/9 games before the hull game. It likely that they will beat a poor West Ham side on Saturday, with us likely to lose to Chelsea. Then the gap only a point. We just need to focus on ourselves. We need to achieve 8 pts. Where ever we get them.
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30 Mar 17 11.51am

Originally posted by YT

And we might NOT beat Hull of course. However, I am optimistic that enough points can be harvested...and that not many points will actually be needed.

How can you say it will be a 7 point gap if we beat hull. There's 8/9 games before the hull game. It likely that they will beat a poor West Ham side on Saturday, with us likely to lose to Chelsea. Then the gap only a point. We just need to focus on ourselves. We need to achieve 8 pts. Where ever we get them.

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Ginger Pubic Wig Wickham de L'Ouest 30 Mar 17 12.51pm
I get the point about the Hull game. YT is saying that if we win that one they have a net 7 points to make up on us across the rest of them. (8 with GD). He's not going saying the rest don't matter but that that one could swing the season dramatically in either club's favour. If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.
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I get the point about the Hull game. YT is saying that if we win that one they have a net 7 points to make up on us across the rest of them. (8 with GD).

He's not going saying the rest don't matter but that that one could swing the season dramatically in either club's favour.

If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.

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The Dolphin 30 Mar 17 12.51pm
This will go right to thw wire. Whilst we could pick up points against Southampton and Arsenal we will as likely not. I could easily see us being back in the relegation zone after the Arsenal game to be honest and so it will be how we compete against those "better" teams until we get a couple of easier fixtures and how well the team and Sam can understand that whilst we want points from every game that in reality our season will hinge on probably three of our remaining games against similar opposition. They need to be up for those games despite results against the Chelsea's of this world. I have no doubt that we could beat a top team shortly but it more than likely not going to happen just yet. Not negative just being a realist.
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The Dolphin

30 Mar 17 12.51pm

This will go right to thw wire.
Whilst we could pick up points against Southampton and Arsenal we will as likely not.
I could easily see us being back in the relegation zone after the Arsenal game to be honest and so it will be how we compete against those "better" teams until we get a couple of easier fixtures and how well the team and Sam can understand that whilst we want points from every game that in reality our season will hinge on probably three of our remaining games against similar opposition.
They need to be up for those games despite results against the Chelsea's of this world.
I have no doubt that we could beat a top team shortly but it more than likely not going to happen just yet.
Not negative just being a realist.

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eagle@ tn34 hastings 30 Mar 17 8.12pm
Originally posted by The Dolphin This will go right to thw wire. Whilst we could pick up points against Southampton and Arsenal we will as likely not. I could easily see us being back in the relegation zone after the Arsenal game to be honest and so it will be how we compete against those "better" teams until we get a couple of easier fixtures and how well the team and Sam can understand that whilst we want points from every game that in reality our season will hinge on probably three of our remaining games against similar opposition. They need to be up for those games despite results against the Chelsea's of this world. I have no doubt that we could beat a top team shortly but it more than likely not going to happen just yet. Not negative just being a realist. Completely agree with this. Predicting the winner in any premier league game is not as easy as it was say 3 years ago. Teams like liverpool have shipped points aginst the lower teams for example. Thats what makes football so exciting isnt it ? COYP
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hastings 30 Mar 17 8.12pm

Originally posted by The Dolphin

Completely agree with this. Predicting the winner in any premier league game is not as easy as it was say 3 years ago. Teams like liverpool have shipped points aginst the lower teams for example. Thats what makes football so exciting isnt it ?

COYP

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