Despite Newcastle getting promoted last night, I was extremely disappointed to see how little their fans seemed to care until they were halfway through the match. I mean, they didn't even start singing until they were 3-1 up at a PROMOTION DECIDER! And so many fans I've seen are saying it's because "they should be so much higher than this" and "it's nothing compared to what they're used to." And we all know clubs like West Ham and Charlton are and were exactly the same.

This got me thinking - is that gonna be us one day?

Now, hear me out. Say we do renovate Selhurst to 35,000-40,000 and stay in the PL for five more years. Won't expectations be raised? Won't we be expected to be compete? Will we become so used to mid table obscurity that we get bored and start demanding better? I mean, we're already kind of starting to see that now with some fans wanting big names in the summer to push for Europe, when in my opinion we need a couple more years of stability after the rocky seasons we've had so far.

I'm fully aware that our fans are far better than the likes of the geordies and the hammers (and certainly the clowns!) and I don't want to try and slag us off by any means, but it is something that worries me. I for one don't want to see us become a club that expects and demands top eight, and finds anything less a disgrace.

Why not, first and foremost it's a competitive sport, your expectations should be to be the best while being realistic at the same time. Bit different for smaller clubs but look at arsenal, do their board even see it as sport, no, all it is to them is a business. Atleast clubs like utd, Madrid, juve ect demand to win every competition they take part in and have a certain arrogance about them.

Can I be the first to congratulate you on some faultless spelling and punctuation? Really well done.

If you want to live in a world full of kindness, respect and love, try to show these qualities.

Good point. I'm not exactly having sleepless nights, but it is something that's been bugging me a little is all.

Why does mid table have to be coupled with "obscurity"

If we are mid table that means that we have won quite a few matches and isn't that what supporters are supposed to want

I'm quite happy to stay in the prem and endeavour to improve each season.
Gradually year on year moving up to the Top 6.
With some ground improvements.
However as palace Fans we are expecting for something to go wrong.
EG Pulis going.
So hopefully we keep Sam's team happy, the players stay and this is the start of the Team of the 2018's !!!!!!

Palace 13th 2017/18.