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Ray in Houston Houston 02 May 17 3.20pm
Originally posted by Palace BANANA Just a further thought to the "offside" incident.. although the lino flagged for offside, albeit incorrectly, play continued and Wilf was taken out by Heaton. My thoughts are that although the ref was going to give a free kick to Burnley, which technically made the ball was dead, Wilf and Heaton did not know this so Heaton taking Wilf out would normally be a RED card, certainly at least a yellow. Why wasn't Heaton spoken to and still punished for his "off the ball" challenge. If during a game an outfield player was kick an opposing player up in the air in an off the ball incident, whether the ball is dead or not, he would probably be sent off so why not in this incident... I have wondered about this too. However, at worst, the ref would've given Heaton a yellow, and there's very little chance of a 'keeper getting a second card during the game - except perhaps towards the very end for time wasting. It's frustrating because that was a leg-break hack job on Zaha. I can't imagine how we would've all felt if we'd watched Wilf being carted off the pitch with his lower leg flapping in the breeze, and the 'keeper going unpunished because it was incorrectly ruled a dead ball situation. We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.
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Originally posted by Palace BANANA

Just a further thought to the "offside" incident.. although the lino flagged for offside, albeit incorrectly, play continued and Wilf was taken out by Heaton. My thoughts are that although the ref was going to give a free kick to Burnley, which technically made the ball was dead, Wilf and Heaton did not know this so Heaton taking Wilf out would normally be a RED card, certainly at least a yellow. Why wasn't Heaton spoken to and still punished for his "off the ball" challenge. If during a game an outfield player was kick an opposing player up in the air in an off the ball incident, whether the ball is dead or not, he would probably be sent off so why not in this incident...

I have wondered about this too. However, at worst, the ref would've given Heaton a yellow, and there's very little chance of a 'keeper getting a second card during the game - except perhaps towards the very end for time wasting.

It's frustrating because that was a leg-break hack job on Zaha. I can't imagine how we would've all felt if we'd watched Wilf being carted off the pitch with his lower leg flapping in the breeze, and the 'keeper going unpunished because it was incorrectly ruled a dead ball situation.

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 02 May 17 4.21pm
Originally posted by chateauferret We have been into all that before, Willo, but in case you've forgotten he should a) not have been anywhere near Sir Alex in the first place; and b) refereed the match impartially. 1. He never went looking for Ferguson nor would have known his movements.They happened to end up in the same place. 2. He certainly, as always, refereed the match impartially but clearly not to your likeing.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 02 May 17 4.21pm

Originally posted by chateauferret

We have been into all that before, Willo, but in case you've forgotten he should a) not have been anywhere near Sir Alex in the first place; and b) refereed the match impartially.

1. He never went looking for Ferguson nor would have known his movements.They happened to end up in the same place.

2. He certainly, as always, refereed the match impartially but clearly not to your likeing.

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Palace BANANA Ringmer, Lewes, East Sussex 02 May 17 4.46pm
1. He never went looking for Ferguson nor would have known his movements.They happened to end up in the same place. ... Ok Willo, just of interest, please explain how you would know this.. what inside information do you have 2. He certainly, as always, refereed the match impartially but clearly not to your likeing. ... The way he refereed the Cup Final was very questionable, did not show impartiality with some very important decisions, which were not to the liking of many neutrals too not just us Palace fans .. even the pundits questioned his so called "impartial" performance and decisions..
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Palace BANANA

Ringmer, Lewes, East Sussex 02 May 17 4.46pm

1. He never went looking for Ferguson nor would have known his movements.They happened to end up in the same place.

... Ok Willo, just of interest, please explain how you would know this.. what inside information do you have

2. He certainly, as always, refereed the match impartially but clearly not to your likeing.

... The way he refereed the Cup Final was very questionable, did not show impartiality with some very important decisions, which were not to the liking of many neutrals too not just us Palace fans .. even the pundits questioned his so called "impartial" performance and decisions..

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Spiderman Horsham 02 May 17 4.51pm
Originally posted by Willo So you accept that 'Demotion' does occur based on performances.And so it should. I shall treat all the 'Political clout' with derision. If Mark had performed like Attwell he would have suffered the same consequences. At the end of the day there is robust system for measuring the performances of PL referees after each and very game. Each PL game is evaluated with scrutinisation of every decision using the match footage and 'ProZone' to measure the referee's performance in great detail. Match delegates assess the accuracy and consistency of decision making and their management of the game. So yes there is a 'Forensic' analysis of the referee's performance after each and every game. Edited by Willo (01 May 2017 11.20am) Absolute b****s, he has admitted getting decisions wrong in the Cup Final, millions of world-wide viewers saw them....what happened to him/ F* all
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Spiderman

Horsham 02 May 17 4.51pm

Originally posted by Willo

So you accept that 'Demotion' does occur based on performances.And so it should.

I shall treat all the 'Political clout' with derision.
If Mark had performed like Attwell he would have suffered the same consequences.

At the end of the day there is robust system for measuring the performances of PL referees after each and very game.
Each PL game is evaluated with scrutinisation of every decision using the match footage and 'ProZone' to measure the referee's performance in great detail. Match delegates assess the accuracy and consistency of decision making and their management of the game.
So yes there is a 'Forensic' analysis of the referee's performance after each and every game.

Edited by Willo (01 May 2017 11.20am)

Absolute b******s, he has admitted getting decisions wrong in the Cup Final, millions of world-wide viewers saw them....what happened to him/ F*** all

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 02 May 17 4.56pm
Originally posted by Palace BANANA 1. He never went looking for Ferguson nor would have known his movements.They happened to end up in the same place. ... Ok Willo, just of interest, please explain how you would know this.. what inside information do you have 2. He certainly, as always, refereed the match impartially but clearly not to your likeing. ... The way he refereed the Cup Final was very questionable, did not show impartiality with some very important decisions, which were not to the liking of many neutrals too not just us Palace fans .. even the pundits questioned his so called "impartial" performance and decisions.. The pundits are entitled to their opinions and NO referee is above criticis, "Goes with the territory" and all that. I have already commented on HOL about some decisions in the Final and I am sure that many believe I was just trying to be a provocative stimulus on HOL. Far from it - as I mentioned on HOL I made the exact comments to a Chelsea supporter in my 'Local' - He commented that I was being very gracious and honest and my wife said words to the affect "He is very fair".So what I said outside I said on HOL - I was just giving my 'Take' on some of the decisions.
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 02 May 17 4.56pm

Originally posted by Palace BANANA

1. He never went looking for Ferguson nor would have known his movements.They happened to end up in the same place.

... Ok Willo, just of interest, please explain how you would know this.. what inside information do you have

2. He certainly, as always, refereed the match impartially but clearly not to your likeing.

... The way he refereed the Cup Final was very questionable, did not show impartiality with some very important decisions, which were not to the liking of many neutrals too not just us Palace fans .. even the pundits questioned his so called "impartial" performance and decisions..

The pundits are entitled to their opinions and NO referee is above criticis, "Goes with the territory" and all that.

I have already commented on HOL about some decisions in the Final and I am sure that many believe I was just trying to be a provocative stimulus on HOL. Far from it - as I mentioned on HOL I made the exact comments to a Chelsea supporter in my 'Local' - He commented that I was being very gracious and honest and my wife said words to the affect "He is very fair".So what I said outside I said on HOL - I was just giving my 'Take' on some of the decisions.

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Spiderman Horsham 02 May 17 5.08pm
Originally posted by Willo Obviously "Calmed down" in the cold-light of day ! One can see things differently when one looks at the TV footage. Like the offside decision that you still wont accept!!
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Spiderman

Horsham 02 May 17 5.08pm

Originally posted by Willo

Obviously "Calmed down" in the cold-light of day ! One can see things differently when one looks at the TV footage.

Like the offside decision that you still wont accept!!

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 02 May 17 5.32pm
Originally posted by Spiderman Like the offside decision that you still wont accept!! Have you not read my posts ?
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 02 May 17 5.32pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Like the offside decision that you still wont accept!!

Have you not read my posts ?

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spartakev2 Anerley 02 May 17 5.46pm
Why do we gave to go through this every time we have a s**t ref. Willo is never going to say a ref had a bad game, so why argue with him. Pointless.
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spartakev2

Anerley 02 May 17 5.46pm

Why do we gave to go through this every time we have a s**t ref. Willo is never going to say a ref had a bad game, so why argue with him. Pointless.

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PremierPalace 02 May 17 5.51pm
Originally posted by Willo What should he have done ? Be rude and ignore him ? Reading far too much into this. Anyway, must go out now and deliver some Tory leaflets for the local elections ! He certainly shouldn't be hugging an joining in with bribery mimes
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