We'll work hard all game and hold them at arms length for most of it.

Yaya will score his usual screamer and someone will fall over in or around the box often enough for City to score direct from a free kick or penalty. (Leroy Saneh, I'm looking at you - you f****** cheat)

Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune)

I think tbh one more point will be enough. Swansea might have an attractive run in but for large parts of the last couple of months they have been terrible. If they concede first to Everton then I would be confident that Everton will get something out of the game, they have a really good counter-attacking game.

One more point would mean Swansea having to win all three games to overtake us and that will be a tall order for them.

I posted in another thread how our recent results - going back to the win over Boro after the loss to Stoke - can be broken down into two very distinct and consistent groups: when we played on a full week's rest, all wins and one draw (coming back from 2-0 down to tie Leicester); but after a short rest, all losses.

We lost to Southampton midweek after beating Chelsea. We lost to Spurs midweek after beating Liverpool and we lost to Burnley after playing Liverpool and Spurs in the prior 6 days.

We play Man City, Hull and Man Utd on a full week's rest each game.

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

Of course. It's just that Kermie seemed to suggest that we would still also need to beat Hull, which is not correct. Any Palace win OR any Swansea loss will see us safe. But Swansea can win all three games and we're still ok if we beat Hull.

For the record, I have little faith that Everton will turn over Swansea. Everton are two points behind Arsenal having played 2 games more, while they're completely safe in 7th. Maybe the possibility of a Europa League space failing to the 6th place team has some interest, but it's the sort of remote technicality that's important to fans but hardly a motivating force for players at the end of a long season.

Edited by Ray in Houston (02 May 2017 3.15pm)

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

I'm fairly sure that this idea that most fans have that teams with nothing to play for tend to do less well than they would otherwise have done if they had something to play for is a myth. Like playing against 10 men is harder than playing against 11.

We beat Liverpool 3-1 away with nothing to play for. We beat Swansea and Stoke at home last 2 seasons with nothing to play for. We drew 3-3 with Liverpool when they were going for the title and we had nothing to play for.

While we could go down I don't think Swansea should be considered favourites against Everton. Form and quality suggest Everton should be favourites.

Spammers the same, Spuds and Pool then Burnley who also might not be out of the mix.

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