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View dp's Profile dp Flag Tunbridge Wells 21 May 17 10.01am Send a Private Message to dp Add dp as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

Guessing this means that the £50mill from the yanks has probably been spent then.

Even little Exeter are knocking down their Old Stand - exact replica of ours but half the size - and building a new one now.

I don't know why you would surmise that. If the £50 million is ring-fenced for ground expansion and we can't get permission to expand the ground then it is quite possible that the £50 million has not been spent at all.

I don't see anything wrong with Palace borrowing money against next season's revenue in order to recruit playing staff for next season. This seems to be a perfectly sensible way of approaching it and is, in accountancy speak, matched. I would be worrying if we were borrowing against 2019 TV money to fund next year's recruitment, but this is not the case.

Don't forget that if we sign someone on a 5 year contract then the sunk cost of the signing on fees etc., at the start should properly be accrued over the period of the contract.

Doesn't seem to be anything to be alarmed about on its own.

 

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Originally posted by Kermit8

Guessing this means that the £50mill from the yanks has probably been spent then.

The next set of accounts is going to make very interesting reading

 

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Originally posted by dp

Don't forget that if we sign someone on a 5 year contract then the sunk cost of the signing on fees etc., at the start should properly be accrued over the period of the contract.

Doesn't seem to be anything to be alarmed about on its own.

Amortising the transfer fee and costs over five years may look good in the P&L but it doesn't help the cash flow if it all has to be paid up front - which often it doesn't

 

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Originally posted by dp


I don't see anything wrong with Palace borrowing money against next season's revenue in order to recruit playing staff for next season.

It's fairly common in other industries too with many companies in the travel industry having huge cash inflows in July and August but very little beforehand and also companies in the toy industry that have a huge percentage of their sales made in the run up to Christmas

 

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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Amortising the transfer fee and costs over five years may look good in the P&L but it doesn't help the cash flow if it all has to be paid up front - which often it doesn't

As has already been stated, there is a great difference between cash and profit and loss. Highly successful businesses do tend to need to borrow money to deal with cash. From that perspective it could actually be seen as good news that we are needing to borrow.

 

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Originally posted by Kermit8


Salary payments were officially £70mill two years ago going by the accounts so with our expensive signings since that must be hitting £80mill plus. It looks very possible we have been spending more than we are getting. Wouldn't have thought the board would go down that road what with our financial history but guess Parish knows what he is doing.

That's any development plans, if there were any, on the back of back burners then.

Unless - as was stated - the American money was ring fenced for development and remains untouched and gathering crumbs of interest in some escrow account.

That they are not soending those monies or securing the loan against the American money makes the likelihood of development greater rather than less.

 

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