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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 30 Aug 17 11.30am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Glastonbury had a higher arrest rate than Notting Hill. But that's mainly white so you can ignore that.

Bulls***!

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 30 Aug 17 11.31am

Originally posted by nickgusset

I think you are overstating this somewhat. Off the top of your head willo, can you come up with more than 3 examples.

Why aren't you complaining about the death of a young man at Reading festival?


Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending the unruly element. Not in the slightest.

Did you go on any of the anti capitalist marches? Which ones?
Because you sure as heII wouldn't get an idea of the racial demographics on such a march from the scant tv and media coverage such marches

Having been on many marches (none of which were billed as being anti capitalist ) I can assure you there is a good ethnic mix.

I look forward to your response.


Edit. Just noticed your edit.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 30 Aug 17 11.38am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Bulls***!


Stafford Scott of the monitoring group, set up in the 1970s to challenge police racism, said feelings were running high among many in the black community and levels of anger were “very close” to conditions before the Broadwater farm riots in Tottenham 32 years ago. “There’s a feeling that the police are waging a war against the black community,” said Scott. Jair Tavares, Da Costa’s cousin, said the family was calling for the officers involved to be suspended and believed that recent policing tactics had stirred tensions. “It’s almost like they want something to happen so they can shut it [the carnival] down,” said Tavares. “If anything, people should be scared of going to the carnival because the police are something to be scared of. They don’t guarantee our safety.”

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 30 Aug 17 11.41am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset


Stafford Scott of the monitoring group, set up in the 1970s to challenge police racism, said feelings were running high among many in the black community and levels of anger were “very close” to conditions before the Broadwater farm riots in Tottenham 32 years ago. “There’s a feeling that the police are waging a war against the black community,” said Scott. Jair Tavares, Da Costa’s cousin, said the family was calling for the officers involved to be suspended and believed that recent policing tactics had stirred tensions. “It’s almost like they want something to happen so they can shut it [the carnival] down,” said Tavares. “If anything, people should be scared of going to the carnival because the police are something to be scared of. They don’t guarantee our safety.”

Of course, It's all the police's fault.

You are a comedy act.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 30 Aug 17 11.42am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

I think you are overstating this somewhat. Off the top of your head willo, can you come up with more than 3 examples.

Why aren't you complaining about the death of a young man at Reading festival?


Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending the unruly element. Not in the slightest.

Did you go on any of the anti capitalist marches? Which ones?
Because you sure as heII wouldn't get an idea of the racial demographics on such a march from the scant tv and media coverage such marches

Having been on many marches (none of which were billed as being anti capitalist ) I can assure you there is a good ethnic mix.

I look forward to your response.


Over-stating what ? I'm really not sure what you mean about this or "3 examples".Are you suggesting that the facts of the violence have been over-stated or have been embellished ?

Regarding the 'Reading festival' I have not been aware of the death so don't know the circumstances, accordingly cannot comment.

Apropos the 'Anti-Capitalist' matches, you mentioned an ethnic mix and you will know better than me as you go on them.Point I was making was that disgraceful violence was not just confined to blacks and I don't have any agenda against people of such colour.

At the end of the day I don't have all the facts about the NHC.All I will say is that it is a real shame that such a celebration is marred by those hell-bent on ruining a good day out for many.And it is a real shame that music festivals also attract those who find themselves being arrested for various reasons.Shame on them all, whatever colour, ethnicity they are.

Edited by Willo (30 Aug 2017 11.46am)

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 30 Aug 17 11.47am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Of course, It's all the police's fault.

You are a comedy act.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 30 Aug 17 12.01pm

Originally posted by Willo

Over-stating what ? I'm really not sure what you mean about this or "3 examples".Are you suggesting that the facts of the violence have been over-stated or have been embellished ?

Regarding the 'Reading festival' I have not been aware of the death so don't know the circumstances, accordingly cannot comment.

Apropos the 'Anti-Capitalist' matches, you mentioned an ethnic mix and you will know better than me as you go on them.Point I was making was that disgraceful violence was not just confined to blacks and I don't have any agenda against people of such colour.

At the end of the day I don't have all the facts about the NHC.All I will say is that it is a real shame that such a celebration is marred by those hell-bent on ruining a good day out for many.And it is a real shame that music festivals also attract those who find themselves being arrested for various reasons.Shame on them all, whatever colour, ethnicity they are.

Edited by Willo (30 Aug 2017 11.46am)

Go on. You say about left wing violence during anti capitalist marches, surely you can come up with specific examples.

 

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View kenners46's Profile kenners46 Online Flag sydenham village 30 Aug 17 12.04pm Send a Private Message to kenners46 Add kenners46 as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset


Stafford Scott of the monitoring group, set up in the 1970s to challenge police racism, said feelings were running high among many in the black community and levels of anger were “very close” to conditions before the Broadwater farm riots in Tottenham 32 years ago. “There’s a feeling that the police are waging a war against the black community,” said Scott. Jair Tavares, Da Costa’s cousin, said the family was calling for the officers involved to be suspended and believed that recent policing tactics had stirred tensions. “It’s almost like they want something to happen so they can shut it [the carnival] down,” said Tavares. “If anything, people should be scared of going to the carnival because the police are something to be scared of. They don’t guarantee our safety.”


Are all your quotes out of a childrens fantasy book

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 30 Aug 17 12.10pm

Originally posted by kenners46


Are all your quotes out of a childrens fantasy book

Stafford Scott is a well respected campaigner who has had years of experience.

Take a look at Stafford Scott (@StaffordScott_):

I'll forgive your ignorance.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 30 Aug 17 12.11pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Go on. You say about left wing violence during anti capitalist marches, surely you can come up with specific examples.

Don't be so ridiculous.
You know darned well that there have been violence on such demonstrations/marches etc so I am not going to waste my time delving into "Specific examples".

I'm not going to be 'Gusseting' around the Internet looking for examples and provide links.

Edited by Willo (30 Aug 2017 12.12pm)

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 30 Aug 17 12.12pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Stafford Scott is a well respected campaigner who has had years of experience.

Take a look at Stafford Scott (@StaffordScott_):

I'll forgive your ignorance.

All your quotes are from people who are as potty as you.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 30 Aug 17 12.23pm

Originally posted by Willo

Don't be so ridiculous.
You know darned well that there have been violence on such demonstrations/marches etc so I am not going to waste my time delving into "Specific examples".

I'm not going to be 'Gusseting' around the Internet looking for examples and provide links.

Edited by Willo (30 Aug 2017 12.12pm)

How many people were involved in the violence on these marches? It's true any violence should be frowned upon, but put it in some perspective for your readers. Thirty people involved or hundreds. It's difficult to tell from the pictures in the mail.

Edited by nickgusset (30 Aug 2017 12.24pm)

 

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