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View braunstoneagle's Profile braunstoneagle Flag the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 28 Apr 19 8.45am Send a Private Message to braunstoneagle Add braunstoneagle as a friend

Originally posted by MonsterMunch

Love the ambition here.Needs an edit mind. Knows how to get a result away. Clueless at home when we are required to play on the front foot and take charge of a game. Unable to react to in game management. And before you come back with yes we drew with Everton, another point on the board I believe only Huddersfield have an inferior record to us this season. I go both home and away, the poor sods who can only get to the home games I wonder how they feel with Roy behind the wheel.

well done...little old crystal palace with the 2nd lowest net spend are mid table, doing well and able to be on the the beach, bit still hold a very good everton side 0-0.

also, im not sure if you are aware of this but there is no separate table for home & away form, it all get added together as do the points, if you care to take a look at the league table you will see this, i can only assume you havnt looked at the table of late, as if you had, you and a lot of other fans wouldnt be moaning like a bunch of spoilt little brats.

 


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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 28 Apr 19 8.55am Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by ChrisGC

I predicted a 3-0 win mate, it was no surprise to me that we won.

One week on and you are wanting Roy sacked!

Why would Parish even consider sacking him. He has got us mid table in both seasons, this year after losing 2 quality players in Cabaye and RLC.

Why would anyone gamble the prospect of losing £120m a year, if they didn't have too. There is no guarantee anyone else available would do any better.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 28 Apr 19 9.29am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle


We are 12th in the self styled Best League in the World. Where does everyone think we should be placed? It seems a lot of people would be pleased to see Benetiz take over - how’s he done this year?

This.

My Charlton and Millwall mates what chop "your" sorry their right hand off for this.

If we can just improve our home form a little more next season...

Edited by Badger11 (28 Apr 2019 9.30am)

 


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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 28 Apr 19 9.39am

Originally posted by Painter

One week on and you are wanting Roy sacked!

Why would Parish even consider sacking him. He has got us mid table in both seasons,
this year after losing 2 quality players in Cabaye and RLC.

Why would anyone gamble the prospect of losing £120m a year, if they didn't have too. There is no guarantee anyone else available would do any better.

I've been calling for him to be sacked since we lost three times to Watford and Brighton did the double. I've been vocally critical since Bournemouth away on the 1st October.

I agree with in bold. SP is not going to sack him whilst we're grinding out 40 points through negative, anti-football.

I think we have better players then most give credit and should be kicking on, looking to progress and challenge for 8th.

This summer is the right time to thank Hodgson and retire him off, sell a couple of players in their peak and invest in a manager and a couple of players.

A LB, Attacking midfield or two and a striker is all that is needed. Plus a manager prepared to play them.

Whatever your opinion on Hodgson the home performances are unacceptable and the buck stops with him.

 

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jeeagles Flag 28 Apr 19 9.45am

I have to admit. This season, we have comfortably avoided relegation with no real scares. We are in a decent position in the league. Wolves and Watford have had great seasons; Leicester, Everton, and West Ham all have much bigger resources. We are now the 9th longest serving team in the premier league and next year I would except similar. Roy had done the job he was expected to.

I can't make Bournemouth. My criticism is that I missed Leicester, Burnley, and Fulham. So I've seen 1 home win against Huddersfield and palace players score twice from open play (Ward and PVA). It's been a pretty poor return for a season ticket and 3 hour round trips.

I've lowered my stance from thinking we should sack him, to merely suggesting we should keep an eye out for a talented replacement.

 

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View MonsterMunch's Profile MonsterMunch Flag Cambridge 28 Apr 19 9.49am Send a Private Message to MonsterMunch Add MonsterMunch as a friend

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

well done...little old crystal palace with the 2nd lowest net spend are mid table, doing well and able to be on the the beach, bit still hold a very good everton side 0-0.

also, im not sure if you are aware of this but there is no separate table for home & away form, it all get added together as do the points, if you care to take a look at the league table you will see this, i can only assume you havnt looked at the table of late, as if you had, you and a lot of other fans wouldnt be moaning like a bunch of spoilt little brats.

Nah sorry don’t go along with your apologist attitude. I’m more of a Keep moving forward or stand still kind of guy. If you have faith that Roy’s give it to wilf tactic and reliance on penalties and away form is sustainable then fair play to your optimism. Roy shows very limited ability in my opinion. A lot could change by the start of next season but can Roy change his approach I’m very doubtful. Maybe my expectations are higher than yours. Have a look at your surroundings this isn’t the championship days any longer.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 28 Apr 19 9.49am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

Benteke is a write off. s*** touch, no strength, poor movement, can’t stay on his feet or hold the ball up.

This is true, so instead of getting some width in the team and banging some balls in the box Roy plays MacArthur on the left wing and Wilf though the middle. Roy hasn’t and never will play to Benteke’s strengths and when Wilf is gone it’ll be 4 central midfielders chugging round the pitch, playing the ball sideways, with possibly Andros cutting back onto his strong foot after the oppo have been behind the ball for 20 passes.

I get why Parish will never want a manager keeping us in the prem to leave, and Roy won’t be doing it for very long anyway, but I am concerned we might be on the start of a slide seeing how few goals we score and how Roy is sapping creativity out of the team to the point you expect there not to be any. Roy had better be good with any new players and squad on the training pitch still because right now in real matches we’re very tame apart from some of the individual battles. I wish I could fast forward to the next manager because I’ve come close to not using my ST so many times. It’s lucky we don’t have a 35,000 stadium because we’d have to give away fans half to 3/4 of the Arfur to fill it playing this.

 


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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 28 Apr 19 9.50am

Originally posted by MonsterMunch

Nah sorry don’t go along with your apologist attitude. I’m more of a Keep moving forward or stand still kind of guy. If you have faith that Roy’s give it to wilf tactic and reliance on penalties and away form is sustainable then fair play to your optimism. Roy shows very limited ability in my opinion. A lot could change by the start of next season but can Roy change his approach I’m very doubtful. Maybe my expectations are higher than yours. Have a look at your surroundings this isn’t the championship days any longer.

What a post!
Great stuff.

 

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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 28 Apr 19 9.53am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

This is true, so instead of getting some width in the team and banging some balls in the box Roy plays MacArthur on the left wing and Wilf though the middle. Roy hasn’t and never will play to Benteke’s strengths and when Wilf is gone it’ll be 4 central midfielders chugging round the pitch, playing the ball sideways, with possibly Andros cutting back onto his strong foot after the oppo have been behind the ball for 20 passes.

I get why Parish will never want a manager keeping us in the prem to leave, and Roy won’t be doing it for very long anyway, but I am concerned we might be on the start of a slide seeing how few goals we score and how Roy is sapping creativity out of the team to the point you expect there not to be any. Roy had better be good with any new players and squad on the training pitch still because right now in real matches we’re very tame apart from some of the individual battles. I wish I could fast forward to the next manager because I’ve come close to not using my ST so many times. It’s lucky we don’t have a 35,000 stadium because we’d have to give away fans half to 3/4 of the Arfur to fill it playing this.

Another beauty,agree strongly.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 28 Apr 19 10.10am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by MonsterMunch

Nah sorry don’t go along with your apologist attitude. I’m more of a Keep moving forward or stand still kind of guy. If you have faith that Roy’s give it to wilf tactic and reliance on penalties and away form is sustainable then fair play to your optimism. Roy shows very limited ability in my opinion. A lot could change by the start of next season but can Roy change his approach I’m very doubtful. Maybe my expectations are higher than yours. Have a look at your surroundings this isn’t the championship days any longer.

Yes my concern is the damage this may be doing for a bit further down the road, maybe even next season. Maybe if those 100% for Roy Hodgson think about this for a while they may see the point. If we’re always negating our own ability to actually win a football a match and doing that more and more, what happens after we’ve been doing that for so long? Add to that a new manager.

Unless we get a RLC type or something happen next season I think we’ll be sowing the seeds of some even more frustrating times in the future. All I’m asking for is a few overlaps, maybe some early crosses in, or attacking before the oppo have everyone behind the ball and we have a load of ineffective possession, not MacArthur with the ball on the left showing the body language of someone instinctively looking to pass the ball down that wing but realising there isn’t and there won’t be anyone there, so inside to one of the other 3 2-3 central midfielders, over to Andros blocked out and back over to MacArthur again. Wake me up when we have another plan.

 


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Originally posted by MonsterMunch

Nah sorry don’t go along with your apologist attitude. I’m more of a Keep moving forward or stand still kind of guy. If you have faith that Roy’s give it to wilf tactic and reliance on penalties and away form is sustainable then fair play to your optimism. Roy shows very limited ability in my opinion. A lot could change by the start of next season but can Roy change his approach I’m very doubtful. Maybe my expectations are higher than yours. Have a look at your surroundings this isn’t the championship days any longer.

so why dont you enlighten us to what you expect from next season then?

bearing in mind the clubs above us have much better resources available to them, and you can almost guarantee will outspend us!

also why dont you enlighten us as to who you want as manager and what they would bring to the table.

to put in into layman's terms for you, it seems you & a lot of other posters want to change their reliable & sensible ford fiesta for a sleek and attractive porsche 911 but have no idea about how to fund it.

 


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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 28 Apr 19 10.26am

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

so why dont you enlighten us to what you expect from next season then?

bearing in mind the clubs above us have much better resources available to them, and you can almost guarantee will outspend us!

also why dont you enlighten us as to who you want as manager and what they would bring to the table.

to put in into layman's terms for you, it seems you & a lot of other posters want to change their reliable & sensible ford fiesta for a sleek and attractive porsche 911 but have no idea about how to fund it.

A crap and condescending analogy, but to put it onto context, you're entering your fiesta into an F1 race driven by Johnny Herbert and are happy getting lapped, not realising that when the race finishes eventually you're in last place and it was all pointless.

Rather than cheer the fact that we're in the race, why not upgrade the car and get a better driver?

 

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