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Terrible against spurs, even worse tonight. After spending all that money, what odds for koeman being next manager sacked...

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 15 Sep 17 12.19am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by spartakev2

Terrible against spurs, even worse tonight. After spending all that money, what odds for koeman being next manager sacked...

Yes they have spent a lot of money but they have also received a fair sum from the players they have sold and I believe their net spend is something in the region of £45 Mill which is not a fortune in PL terms.

In terms of their Europa League match, they certainly didn't field their strongest side with Pickford,Gueye,Klaassen and Ramirez all on the bench.
But I accept it was a disappointing result.

Edited by Willo (15 Sep 2017 12.21am)

 

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View spartakev2's Profile spartakev2 Flag Anerley 15 Sep 17 9.37am Send a Private Message to spartakev2 Add spartakev2 as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

Yes they have spent a lot of money but they have also received a fair sum from the players they have sold and I believe their net spend is something in the region of £45 Mill which is not a fortune in PL terms.

In terms of their Europa League match, they certainly didn't field their strongest side with Pickford,Gueye,Klaassen and Ramirez all on the bench.
But I accept it was a disappointing result.

Edited by Willo (15 Sep 2017 12.21am)

I'm not talking about net spend, but the amount they've spent on a lot of players, to strengthen their squad. So although they left z few players out, you would expect them to have enough depth to win a match like this.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 15 Sep 17 9.44am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Bought too many players like Spurs did when Bale left. Always a risk. The only one of those still st Spurs is Erikssen. The other 7 have gone. And Everton are light up front. Not as light as us, but seeing as they sold a striker for £75mil + addons of £20mil or whatever to not buy a striker but just Rooney, who now deeper, is bad.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 15 Sep 17 9.46am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Spoke to an Everton fan in the summer bragging about how great they were going to be. Will have to add in how shyte we've been when I ask him why his prediction has gone to sh1t.

Spurs were decent last week but Everton were very sh1t too.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 15 Sep 17 9.47am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Bought too many players like Spurs did when Bale left. Always a risk. The only one of those still st Spurs is Erikssen. The other 7 have gone. And Everton are light up front. Not as light as us, but seeing as they sold a striker for £75mil + addons of £20mil or whatever to not buy a striker but just Rooney, who now deeper, is bad.

Having sold Lukaku they definitely needed another striker - don't know if they tried and were unsuccesful.I think Giroud might have been useful or perhaps Costa on 'Loan' ?

So Liverpool are in need of central defenders and Everton in need of a striker.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 15 Sep 17 9.50am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

Having sold Lukaku they definitely needed another striker - don't know if they tried and were unsuccesful.I think Giroud might have been useful or perhaps Costa on 'Loan' ?

So Liverpool are in need of central defenders and Everton in need of a striker.

So just looking in the panini album again and cheap options rather than investing the money in longer term quality which is closer to what Lukaku is. Buying 7 or 8 players after selling striker and trying to get cheap strikers in from down the road isn't an excuse.

 


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Originally posted by Willo

Having sold Lukaku they definitely needed another striker - don't know if they tried and were unsuccesful.I think Giroud might have been useful or perhaps Costa on 'Loan' ?

So Liverpool are in need of central defenders and Everton in need of a striker.

They don't just need another striker, they need a talismanic striker. Lukaku wasn't just about his goals, it was about the faith the fans and his team mates had in him scoring goals (a bit like AJ for Palace).

 




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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 15 Sep 17 9.55am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Part Time James

They don't just need another striker, they need a talismanic striker. Lukaku wasn't just about his goals, it was about the faith the fans and his team mates had in him scoring goals (a bit like AJ for Palace).

They bought Ramirez for £5.25 Mill and a 20 year old striker Vlacic for £10 Mill and I cannot see them scoring too many in the short term.They bought Rooney of course but I don't see him as a striker any more.Very hard to replace Lukaku with a player of similar quality.

 

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Originally posted by Willo

They bought Ramirez for £5.25 Mill and a 20 year old striker Vlacic for £10 Mill and I cannot see them scoring too many in the short term.They bought Rooney of course but I don't see him as a striker any more.Very hard to replace Lukaku with a player of similar quality.

Well, the short answer is that you can't replace Lukaku without spending as much as you made for the sale. Not unless you are extremely lucky unearthing an underrated gem. Rooney is a fan's hero at Everton and they'll be happy they signed him (all the time he's not in trouble with the law) but as you say, he won't replace Lukaku.

 




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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 15 Sep 17 10.03am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

They bought Ramirez for £5.25 Mill and a 20 year old striker Vlacic for £10 Mill and I cannot see them scoring too many in the short term.They bought Rooney of course but I don't see him as a striker any more.Very hard to replace Lukaku with a player of similar quality.

Hard to replace Lukaku if you're unprepared which it looks like they were, or relied on some out of favour strikers from the top 5 and not a lot else. They've messed up alright.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 15 Sep 17 10.15am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Hard to replace Lukaku if you're unprepared which it looks like they were, or relied on some out of favour strikers from the top 5 and not a lot else. They've messed up alright.

Lukaku was a top striker who commanded a fee of £75 Mill rising to £90 Mill.

Not disrespecting Everton but I think strikers of that quality and ilk would be in demand by bigger clubs and might prefer to go elsewhere.Always difficult for such sides to replace like for like, hence they spread the money across a few players.

Edited by Willo (15 Sep 2017 10.16am)

 

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