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 Rudi Hedman  Caterham 17 Sep 17 11.47pm |
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Originally posted by youngpalacefan111
What a walley, you remind of those sad goons who critique professional boxers or MMA fighters because they've had a few boxing classes. They know how to throw a jab and a straight right but have no idea how the angles work, where to place there feet and set combinations up. Whats your background in football then Rudi? if you haven't been involved with a prem team then forgive me thinking you know jacks*** about football like the rest of us FANS. How to prove you've nothing to add in a few sentences, so if you haven't, stay out.
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| Mstrobez 17 Sep 17 11.52pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
How to prove you've nothing to add in a few sentences, so if you haven't, stay out. It's funny how people use the "what dyou know about running a football club" to try and prove the point that they know for sure that Parish is an excellent chairman, despite the fact they also have absolutely no experience in running a football club. Every fan who pays money (increased money since we were promoted I should add) is completely entitled to a view on how good or bad the football club is being run. Many of the concerns have accumulated over a period of time and Parish has had unwavering support from much of the fan base throughout. Benefit of the doubt given many many times from someone like me. But if you can't see that there is seriously something going wrong behind the scenes then I'd say you are the one who has no idea how running any business works, not just a football club, youngpalacefan. Edited by Mstrobez (17 Sep 2017 11.54pm)
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| ambrose7 Croydon 17 Sep 17 11.53pm |
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I've been a season ticket holder for roughly 18 years now. Across that time, I've never continuously turned up expecting us to be as frustrating to watch, clueless as to a strategy, and expecting defeat, at any point as much as I have across the last year or so. The Francis era was pretty bad, but we had no money and had been a mess for the previous 5 years so it wasn't that surprising. To have the resources we currently do, and to be so unenjoyable, is mystifying to me. Allardyce was an improvement, but right now I don't get it. Just take the transfers - 2 return to their club at the end of the season, 1 was apparently bought 'because the fans want him' and the other completely doesn't fit into the team (Competing with 3 left backs, 5 other CBs, and our main holding midfielder who can't get in the side). All the meanwhile, we can't put a striker on the bench, offer no goal threat and have no idea whether we want to play more like Guardiola or Pulis. All I want to do is enjoy watching my club play - that's been really tough, particularly at home, for quite a long time now.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 17 Sep 17 11.53pm |
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Mstrobez, we agree.
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| Bangell Oxford 18 Sep 17 12.01am |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
Has anyone ever hit on a girl and ended up in bed with her ? Only to find in the morning, your pants are around your ankles and there is a smell of bleach from your botty. Ever thought you were on to a good thing, only to find it's you being fcked over ? was it good for you ? Genuinely can't decipher this post
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| rattus2002 18 Sep 17 12.02am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
How do you know? We're the 20th highest revenue club or something. If parish took my advice he'd have flown back from Spain and gone all out for silva and if not given it to Dyche. Now going by past and recent performance I'd estimate that meaning 4+ points, possibly 9, then saving £2 mil comply and very likely the many millions and years in the championship, so yeah, i reckon I've got more of an idea on football than parish. Did you not hear the desperate Campbell speech. A successful and experienced DoF would look at the academy status, future plans for the development of the club and the level to which the club could realistically complete at before taking a role. The revenue whilst important would probably not attract a candidate alone. Whilst we may be 20th or whatever in revenue, our structure and development does not mirror that. That's not Parish's fault, unfortunately past owners haven't invested in club structure or future proofed facilities to aid development and he is playing catch-up. It sounds like you're well qualified for the role. It's a Yes from me.
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| Mstrobez 18 Sep 17 12.06am |
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Originally posted by ambrose7
I've been a season ticket holder for roughly 18 years now. Across that time, I've never continuously turned up expecting us to be as frustrating to watch, clueless as to a strategy, and expecting defeat, at any point as much as I have across the last year or so. The Francis era was pretty bad, but we had no money and had been a mess for the previous 5 years so it wasn't that surprising. To have the resources we currently do, and to be so unenjoyable, is mystifying to me. Allardyce was an improvement, but right now I don't get it. Just take the transfers - 2 return to their club at the end of the season, 1 was apparently bought 'because the fans want him' and the other completely doesn't fit into the team (Competing with 3 left backs, 5 other CBs, and our main holding midfielder who can't get in the side). All the meanwhile, we can't put a striker on the bench, offer no goal threat and have no idea whether we want to play more like Guardiola or Pulis. All I want to do is enjoy watching my club play - that's been really tough, particularly at home, for quite a long time now. I think the difference is with this period, is the "hope" seems to of faded. As a fan of any club, you always look to see a positive sign regardless of how bad things are. A small part of you finds comfort In the potential. There is always something to be proud of, whether it's the fan base, youth set up etc. For the first time as a Palace fan I've felt genuinely disillusioned by the things going on off the field and I personally feel the way we treated the previous manager was embarrassing and an epitome of everything that is wrong in English football today. It just feels hard to see the potential of ever progressing, given the almost unique Palace way we went about it and the reckless decision making process we appeared to employ. That's the thing most people have a problem with, it was completely amateur from start to finish. Why would a forward thinking, long-term visioned coach who wants to progress a teams style over a period of a couple of seasons ever want to come to Palace after that fiasco? Parish provided sweet nothing as to why the managerial reign lasted such a little amount of time other than "we weren't gonna get any better and we ain't gonna go to Chelsea and pass our way to win" which to me just sounded like garbage and comes back to this image of Parish, a couple of yanks and Dougie Freedman genuinely believing they know more about the game than an ex world class and globally respected footballer. There is almost definitely much more to it that he won't admit, because if he couldn't see that against Liverpool the game plan most certainly wasn't "pass our way through Em" and we could've easily come away with a point (or 3), he's just lying to everyone. Edited by Mstrobez (18 Sep 2017 12.08am)
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| youngpalacefan111 18 Sep 17 12.09am |
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Originally posted by Mstrobez
It's funny how people use the "what dyou know about running a football club" to try and prove the point that they know for sure that Parish is an excellent chairman, despite the fact they also have absolutely no experience in running a football club. Every fan who pays money (increased money since we were promoted I should add). Is completely entitled to a view on how good or bad the football club is being run. Many of the concerns have accumulated over a period of time and Parish has had unwavering support from much of the fan base. Benefit of the doubt many many times from someone like me. But if you can't see that there is seriously something going wrong behind the scenes then I'd say you are the one who has no idea how running any club works, not just a football club, youngpalacfan. I guess you haven't read my posts then. Like I've said many times I think Steve f***ed up big time, appointing De Boar and trying to change the direction of the club from counter attacking to total football without spending was f***ing stupid in my uneducated opinion. I'm not debating that i'm simply saying that when certain people disrespect Steve and start calling for his head and disregarding the past 7 years is ridiculous. When some moron on the internet thinks he can run the club better than Steve without having any experience is laughable. The guy got us to the prem and kept us there for 7 years. Maybe we should appoint Rudinho he seems to know his stuff, although like I said he does remind me of those trolls that critique boxers because they've had a few boxing classes and think they are the s***.
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| youngpalacefan111 18 Sep 17 12.12am |
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Originally posted by Mstrobez
It's funny how people use the "what dyou know about running a football club" to try and prove the point that they know for sure that Parish is an excellent chairman, despite the fact they also have absolutely no experience in running a football club. Every fan who pays money (increased money since we were promoted I should add) is completely entitled to a view on how good or bad the football club is being run. Many of the concerns have accumulated over a period of time and Parish has had unwavering support from much of the fan base throughout. Benefit of the doubt given many many times from someone like me. But if you can't see that there is seriously something going wrong behind the scenes then I'd say you are the one who has no idea how running any business works, not just a football club, youngpalacefan. Edited by Mstrobez (17 Sep 2017 11.54pm) And yeh your right I don't know how to run a business or a football club whats your point Einstein?
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| Mstrobez 18 Sep 17 12.20am |
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Originally posted by youngpalacefan111
And yeh your right I don't know how to run a business or a football club whats your point Einstein? My point is you have no basis to deem other people's opinions as worthless on the back of their footballing background, when yours is as limited (maybe even more) than theirs, Einstein. Have you ever run a football club? No. Therefore your job is to blindly worship Lord Parish and your opinion on any footballing related matter is worthless. That seemed to be the crux of your argument a few posts ago.
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| rattus2002 18 Sep 17 12.27am |
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Originally posted by Mstrobez
It's funny how people use the "what dyou know about running a football club" to try and prove the point that they know for sure that Parish is an excellent chairman, despite the fact they also have absolutely no experience in running a football club. Every fan who pays money (increased money since we were promoted I should add) is completely entitled to a view on how good or bad the football club is being run. Many of the concerns have accumulated over a period of time and Parish has had unwavering support from much of the fan base throughout. Benefit of the doubt given many many times from someone like me. But if you can't see that there is seriously something going wrong behind the scenes then I'd say you are the one who has no idea how running any business works, not just a football club, youngpalacefan. Edited by Mstrobez (17 Sep 2017 11.54pm) Everyone is entitled to a view on whether mistakes have been or are being made. Most people will agree that in hindsight there are decisions which have been taken that haven't been correct. However, this isn't a badly run club as some have us believe. My mate is an Orient fan. He'll tell you what a badly run club looks like. Also, why mention the increase in money that you spend to watch the games? If we were in the championship would you have expected the prices to have been frozen for 5 years? I would imagine that most businesses in the last 5 years have raised prices in one way or another.
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| youngpalacefan111 18 Sep 17 12.30am |
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Originally posted by Mstrobez
My point is you have no basis to deem other people's opinions as worthless on the back of their footballing background, when yours is as limited (maybe even more) than theirs, Einstein. Have you ever run a football club? No. Therefore your job is to blindly worship Lord Parish and your opinion on any footballing related matter is worthless. That seemed to be the crux of your argument a few posts ago. Are you f***ing retarded? I deem my opinion on football just as s*** and worthless as any other fan who hasn't run a club. I'm not the one saying I could run the club better than A premiership chairman who got us promoted and kept us in the division for 5 years, Who is also getting advised by ex professionals like Mark Bright and Dougie. So don't try that Einstein I've never given my opinion on how to run the club as i'm not deluded to think i have a more educated opinion on football than those in charge.
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