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View Charlie Croker's Profile Charlie Croker Flag Hampshire 22 Sep 17 2.56pm Send a Private Message to Charlie Croker Add Charlie Croker as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

So he did interfere and not leave it to his manager. Which cannot be disputed.

Wasn't disputing that bit, just that it wasn't about liking the agent - just not wanting (correctly) to pay him.

Personally think he had the right idea with agents, but difficult to maintain that stance when no-one else will back you up.

 


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Originally posted by Charlie Croker

Not sure that's entirely correct either.

The Cahill deal failed because SJ wouldn't pay the agent's fees as he was working for the player, not the club. SJ, quite rightly, said that Cahill should pay the agent, so they trooped off to Goodison where I guess they had a different view . . .

That deal was never going to happen Millwall/ Cahill used us to flush out Everton.

 


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Originally posted by Salford eagle

That deal was never going to happen Millwall/ Cahill used us to flush out Everton.

Can you remind us how 'we' know this. I'm not saying you're wrong. I heard how before but have forgotten.

Jordan said last week he was really about to sign Cahill, it was going through etc.

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 22 Sep 17 4.06pm

Originally posted by Charlie Croker

Wasn't disputing that bit, just that it wasn't about liking the agent - just not wanting (correctly) to pay him.

Personally think he had the right idea with agents, but difficult to maintain that stance when no-one else will back you up.

I kind of agree with him. Agents either work for the club, or for a player. If they're the clubs agents, sure they should be paid for by the club, if they're the players agent, then they should be paid out of the players end.

Same as every other industry.

 


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Originally posted by Flash

Ignoring the posts which clearly deserve to be ignored (if not censured), it’s surely ironic that the man who brought our club to the brink of extinction should now be a commentator on its activities. Yes, he’s a fan and he pumped a lot of money into the club he supported, but if it hadn’t been for the Consortium he might very well have been the man who consigned the memory of Crystal Palace FC to the history books.
He is opinionated and some of his opinions were and are worth expressing, but how he can have the brass neck to criticise the regime that succeeded the mess that his regime left behind is beyond me.
You only have to read his autobiography to realise that he was a self-professed wide boy and his wealth came from a lucky break rather than a sound and sustained business career.
Now I’m not knocking this, as it’s more than I’ll ever achieve. If I had the wealth, of course I’d be looking to see how I could support our club. Similarly, Steve Parish has achieved far more than I could ever hope to achieve. He’s also invested big time in our football club – and to such a great effect. He’s a committed fan – unlike the foreign investors who’ve backed so many other clubs in the premier league. Do we really want to be a Chinese, Russian or Saudi plaything?
As Simon Jordan said in his autobiography’s title – “Be careful what you wish for “.

This with bells on. Great post.

 


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View Bexley Eagle's Profile Bexley Eagle Flag Bexley Kent 22 Sep 17 10.34pm Send a Private Message to Bexley Eagle Add Bexley Eagle as a friend

There were a number of things memorable from the Jordan era but very few weee football related. My personal favourite being 'the futures bright ...the chairmans orange' and also had a great chuckle when it turned out that his girlfriend was none other than a highly paid lady of the night.

 

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Originally posted by jamiemartin721

I kind of agree with him. Agents either work for the club, or for a player. If they're the clubs agents, sure they should be paid for by the club, if they're the players agent, then they should be paid out of the players end.

Same as every other industry.

Makes you wonder why they have a Union If the agents call the tune....

 


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Flash Flag Lampeter 23 Sep 17 12.23am

Originally posted by Charlie Croker

Not sure that's entirely correct either.

The Cahill deal failed because SJ wouldn't pay the agent's fees as he was working for the player, not the club. SJ, quite rightly, said that Cahill should pay the agent, so they trooped off to Goodison where I guess they had a different view . . .

This is my recollection, too. Whilst SJ’s arrogance annoys me, the Cahill issue doesn’t seem to me to be in conflict with the views he expressed on the Debate about the owner-manager relationship. He clearly says that the manager decides which players he wants and the owner signs the cheques. So if the price is too high for whatever reason, it’s the owner’s decision. I was so sorry that we didn’t manage to sign Cahill. I thought he would have seriously improved a team that was already pretty good and would have been a very good fit. But it was SJ’s call and he called it as he thought best.
SJ’s appearance in the media now to comment on generic football issues is really entertaining. But it’s also an opportunity for him subtly (or perhaps not so subtly) to stick the knife in on his successor. “Trust your manager”. “Don’t have private communications with players”.
But one thing he said was ”Back or sack the manager”. SP has been decisive in this respect.

 

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