Eating lentils and cabbage is a very narrow view of a vegan diet. Foods that meat eaters eat now can all be eaten as a vegan if you wish to - pizzas, hot dogs, kebabs, burgers, ice creams are all vegan now. Wagamamas recently added a whole new vegan menu and Pret sell many vegan products and have opened 2 veggie prets which have a range of veggie and vegan options available. All the major supermarkets are stocking a growing number of vegan products to meet the increasing demand for these foods. As the range of products increase it will become increasingly easier for people to become veggie/vegan. The growth has also arisen as a result of doctors recommending healthy vegan diets and people experiencing health benefits as a result of adopting the diet and there are many people who will testify to its benefits. Meat and dairy products are being increasingly linked to an increased likelihood of developing diabetes, obesity, cancer and high blood pressure and a growing number of doctors are speaking out about this. The meat and dairy industry wont allow this information to become readily available just as they are not going to allow their competitors to make profits at their expense. The evidence is, however, growing in support of healthy vegan diets and the increase in the number of vegans and vegan products available points to this.

Edited by sitdownstandup (31 Oct 2017 3.42am)

Man is the most insane species. He worships an invisible God and destroys a visible Nature. Unaware that this Nature he’s destroying is this God he’s worshipping.

Hubert Reeves

Yes. Because that's the exact choice, right? Every type of animal flesh on the planet vs. just lentils and cabbage. Also, there is no other enjoyment to be garnered from existence other than eating. Got it.

Edited by Ray in Houston (31 Oct 2017 2.45pm)

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

Far easier when you have your own chefs cooking for you both at, and outside of, work.

I think it was Nish Kumar (veggie comedian, Croydon lad) who order a goulash in a restaurant, that had arrived with cream on it, and he couldn't be bothered to make a fuss about it.

Optimistic as ever

I dare say I could put up with it for a week or two if I had someone to cater to my tastes exactly and offer up a variety of dishes. At present it'll stay at the odd meal here and there.

Funny if you apply the logic of number 2 to food and religion, they'll say they can't have it when actually they also choose not to have it.

Optimistic as ever

I can't think of a "sport" that bores me more than F1. And as for LH, I cant take him seriously with that earing.
Each to their own though.

The hardest part about going vegetarian was having to learn a whole new repertoire of dishes to cook. The common wisdom is that you need to gather a fleet of about 25 recipes that you can knock up without too much aggravation, and after that you're golden. I'm up to about 15.

Yeah, religious prohibitions are very different. Hindus and cows, Jews and pork, Catholics and fish on Fridays (not a prohibition, but a dictate nonetheless). I choose not to eat meat and fish and the benefits I have enjoyed since making that choice simply reaffirm my decision.

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.