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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 29 Aug 19 4.20pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

If he was a thoroughbred horse he would be dog meat by now.

I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and see how he started this season, but having lost some weight and appearing fitter it would seem that hasn't assisted him with his movement around the pitch nor has his positional sense improved.

The guy is finished at this level (well, certainly with the shape and style we play at Palace). Send him on loan to Bury!

 

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View EddieMac's Profile EddieMac Flag 29 Aug 19 4.34pm Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

If he was a thoroughbred horse he would be dog meat by now.

I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and see how he started this season, but having lost some weight and appearing fitter it would seem that hasn't assisted him with his movement around the pitch nor has his positional sense improved.

The guy is finished at this level (well, certainly with the shape and style we play at Palace). Send him on loan to Bury!


I 100% agree. Everyone is talking about the lack of early balls but he missed 2 one on ones against Colchester the other night. It just looks like he cant even sprint anymore or even kick the ball with power. He plays like a Budgie in slippers.

I have defended him to the high heavens for the last couple years but no more will I do it. He is finished. He peaked at 21/22 and know he is on a massive downward spiral but I still believe someone will be desperate enought to pay decent money for him because they will feel that they can get him back on track.

 

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View Den1923's Profile Den1923 Flag 30 Aug 19 4.32pm Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

Originally posted by EddieMac


I 100% agree. Everyone is talking about the lack of early balls but he missed 2 one on ones against Colchester the other night. It just looks like he cant even sprint anymore or even kick the ball with power. He plays like a Budgie in slippers.

I have defended him to the high heavens for the last couple years but no more will I do it. He is finished. He peaked at 21/22 and know he is on a massive downward spiral but I still believe someone will be desperate enought to pay decent money for him because they will feel that they can get him back on track.

and yet Parish wants to extend his contract, how crazy is that!

 

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View Cucking Funt's Profile Cucking Funt Flag The Walton Hop 30 Aug 19 4.35pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by Den1923

and yet Parish wants to extend his contract, how crazy is that!

I guess its because wed get zero if he was allowed to leave on a free. Extending his contract ensures that hell retain some residual value, however low that may be.

 


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View nead1's Profile nead1 Flag 30 Aug 19 5.10pm Send a Private Message to nead1 Add nead1 as a friend

Exactly that and the same with Wickham. Parish gets so much criticism but he recognises the business realities facing Palace and all other football clubs. Loose a major investment for nothing or extend his contract and retain a significant proportion of the value. He also, of course, know the Palace history of mismanagement and Administration and won't fall into that trap.
As an aside, it was Benteke who won the ball back on the half way line that led to the second goal against Man Utd. Clearly he has been very disappointing overall but give him some credit for that.

Its also worth noting the deal that has been done re Sorloth. In essence, the vast majority of the investment in his transfer will be recovered. Again, savvy business just like the incoming transfers this summer. Very few in number but good value deals.

 

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View Ian-VI's Profile Ian-VI Flag Vicenza 30 Aug 19 5.12pm Send a Private Message to Ian-VI Add Ian-VI as a friend

I guess he doesn't retain any value, because if he's worth 0 now, and renewing for 2 seasons takes his value to 10M (only on paper actually as no one would pay his wages and 10M on top for a wretched player), but we pay him 5M a season, we end up having 0 anyway. With the difference that in the 2nd case scenario we cannot buy other decent ST...

 


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View Aray's Profile Aray Flag London 30 Aug 19 5.37pm Send a Private Message to Aray Add Aray as a friend

Originally posted by Ian-VI

I guess he doesn't retain any value, because if he's worth 0 now, and renewing for 2 seasons takes his value to 10M (only on paper actually as no one would pay his wages and 10M on top for a wretched player), but we pay him 5M a season, we end up having 0 anyway. With the difference that in the 2nd case scenario we cannot buy other decent ST...

Not sure that is how the accounting works. I doubt his valuation on our books is zero.

 

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View Goldfiinger's Profile Goldfiinger Flag Just down the road 30 Aug 19 5.44pm Send a Private Message to Goldfiinger Add Goldfiinger as a friend

Originally posted by Aray

Not sure that is how the accounting works. I doubt his valuation on our books is zero.

No buts its the value we'd get for him if we sold him, now or after he signed a new contract.

He's worthless as a commodity.

 

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View Den1923's Profile Den1923 Flag 30 Aug 19 6.25pm Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

I guess its because wed get zero if he was allowed to leave on a free. Extending his contract ensures that hell retain some residual value, however low that may be.

yep could understand that point if he was able to score but as he cannot it dose not matter how long you extend his contract no one would want and striker who can't score. It would be much better to let him go and save on his wages otherwise we are going to be stuck with the lazy lump for however long his contract is extended and throw good money away paying a striker who is useless!

 

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View Den1923's Profile Den1923 Flag 30 Aug 19 6.40pm Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

Originally posted by Ian-VI

I guess he doesn't retain any value, because if he's worth 0 now, and renewing for 2 seasons takes his value to 10M (only on paper actually as no one would pay his wages and 10M on top for a wretched player), but we pay him 5M a season, we end up having 0 anyway. With the difference that in the 2nd case scenario we cannot buy other decent ST...

I fully agree, we only have to look at Berahino at Stoke, purchase in 2017 for 12mil, played 56 games scored 5 goals and was released on a free, that sums up Benteke value, the same applies to Wickham, look how many times he has played, only player I know who gets injured putting on his boots and yet we have such a good chairman he extends contracts on players who can't score and as you say we lose money paying them wages for being unable to score or to continue to keep the physiological couch warm getting fat!

 

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View kev64's Profile kev64 Flag Thorney, Cambs 30 Aug 19 8.06pm Send a Private Message to kev64 Add kev64 as a friend

A striker that scores 3 goals in 2 seasons, none at Selhurst for around 18 months on 130k a week has zero value regardless on his purchase fee. Wilf is an asset Unfortunately Tekkers is a liability and at 5m a year expensive one.

 

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View Den1923's Profile Den1923 Flag 31 Aug 19 9.56am Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

Originally posted by Aray

Not sure that is how the accounting works. I doubt his valuation on our books is zero.

It would not be unreasonable to have written down his value based on his original contract, so if that was fours years then you would decrease his value by 25% each year, thereafter his resale value would be based on any new contract he signed and since his value is zero based on performance in the books his value should be around 7mil, which is about what he costs a year in salary so very good reason to get rid, rather than extend any contracts.

 

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