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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 06 Jan 18 9.17pm

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Interesting piece and graphic discussing what we as a species may face in the coming decade and the implications.


What do you think will be the biggest change over the coming years, not just politically but ecologically and societal.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 06 Jan 18 9.58pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

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Interesting piece and graphic discussing what we as a species may face in the coming decade and the implications.


What do you think will be the biggest change over the coming years, not just politically but ecologically and societal.

Sex robots.

Some mind mapping tools are soiled pants.

 


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Sheks Crows Eye Flag Virginia 07 Jan 18 6.12am

Interesting read...and a topic I was going to post on here at some point in the near future. The first thing that comes to mind is social media and how its tearing society apart at the seams acting as a catalyst...I know you weren't looking for a political thread but I really do think the left and the right are going for a hard split at some point.

There use to be opportunity for compromise and coming together at the table for the common good, however, the bases and the general populace are just so balkanized with their views at this point.

I'll caveat this by saying, spoiler alert, I do fall on the political right but if I were a alien looking down I would see:

(I'll keep the discussion focused towards the atmospherics in the states)

Lets see:
Identity politics
Altruist Morals
Communists marching the streets
The Rise of the Alt-Right
Center Right and Center Left moderates driven to the extremes because their candidate of choice can't win a primary election.
Fake News on right and left (FNC, Breitbart, MSNBC, CNN, HuffPo, NYT, Vox, Buzzfeed etc)
Everytime I log on Facebook I see someone slagging off on someone else
Twitter, where people tweet 1000 times a day about either side of the political spectrum.
Violence in the streets
Censorship
Infringement of free speech
Congressman getting gunned down at a softball game
#theresistance (which ok call me bias, but this is completely unpatriotic to me and childish)

The goal posts have moved. What a center left individual would want politically, is just completely off the table for someone center right and vice-versa.

I don't know where its all going, maybe I'm just a pessimist, but it seems like its all fertile ground for, at the very least, some serious civil unrest and possibly a split at some point. What centers of gravity would lead to a UK civil war or a US civil war? I'm not really sure, but I do see the sh*t hitting the fan at some point, at least during my childrens lives.

My suspicion is that Trump will win again in 2020. Not only because of a familial contact being a GOP opposition researcher who has bet Ruth Chris Steakhouse on it because their firms numbers "point to nothing changing outside the city/liberal bubble", but also of no real competition from his own party or the Democrats.

Perhaps his re-election could be a flash point for just an absolute nuclear meltdown in this country.

I'd be interested to hear some thoughts on the future of the UK, wheres it all going there? If Brexit fails, is that a flash point?

 

chelys Flag London 07 Jan 18 7.45am

The future is more and more state control over our lives at the expense of personal freedom, free thought and innovation resulting in a stagnant society with little progress and reduced living standards.

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 07 Jan 18 8.16am

I think we are about to enter a new industrial age.

I think automation will eliminate jobs but unlike previous eras the new jobs will also be automated. I expect governments to struggle with higher unemployment becoming the norm and all the social issues that arise from that.

Predicting the future tends to be futile. In my life i have seen the rise of computers, the internet, mobile phones and social media. I have seen the fall of communism and the rise of Islamic extremism. I didn't see any of this coming and I suspect that goes for most people.

Let me be positive for a moment by comparing the 1970's to today.

Europe - Eastern bloc, Spain, Portugal and Greece were all non democratic. Today largely democratic.

Asia and Latin America largely undemocratic today many countries are economically and politically better off.

Africa and Middle East major social and political issues across both continents. Today patchy improvement some shining examples and some same old same old.

With all the problems we see on the news I still think that overall politically and socially the world is a better today that it was 50 years ago.

Let's hope I am wrong about mass unemployment.

 


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sitdownstandup Flag 07 Jan 18 12.19pm

The growth in veganism will continue in spite of people and some industries being resistant to it.

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 07 Jan 18 12.41pm

Increasing population is the overriding factor. It will probably destroy our way of life over the next couple of centuries.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 07 Jan 18 1.20pm

Originally posted by sitdownstandup

The growth in veganism will continue in spite of people and some industries being resistant to it.

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Good for you.

Enjoy your bean burger.

 


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wordup Flag 07 Jan 18 1.26pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Increasing population is the overriding factor. It will probably destroy our way of life over the next couple of centuries.

Bring on the pandemic!

 

wordup Flag 07 Jan 18 1.28pm

Originally posted by sitdownstandup

The growth in veganism will continue in spite of people and some industries being resistant to it.

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You're most likely right. Personally, I could get my head around being a vegetarian, and health and welfare wise it's a good call. I'd find being a vegan a bit too limiting though.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 07 Jan 18 1.29pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Increasing population is the overriding factor. It will probably destroy our way of life over the next couple of centuries.

I'm hoping that technology will eventually help us with this.

But yes.....the rate of population increase has been causing problems for society for decades already.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Jan 2018 1.29pm)

 


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martin2412 Flag Living The Dream 07 Jan 18 2.06pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Increasing population is the overriding factor. It will probably destroy our way of life over the next couple of centuries.

Yeah, we could do with a good war to thin the population out a bit.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 07 Jan 18 2.08pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I'm hoping that technology will eventually help us with this.

But yes.....the rate of population increase has been causing problems for society for decades already.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Jan 2018 1.29pm)

How?

 

Stirlingsays Flag 07 Jan 18 2.23pm

Ever watch Logan's run?

Na, seriously there are lots of ways from immigration control to controversial restrictions on births......With future tech such as the anti aging technologies we are close to making breakthroughs on we are likely to need something.....our population is rocketing and the world's population is generally.

There are underground cities or even further in the future floating ones.

But feeding this human expansion is going to be another problem.....again....technology will answer that or it's going to be horrible.

 


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sitdownstandup Flag 07 Jan 18 2.35pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Good for you.

Enjoy your bean burger.

There's more than bean burgers that vegans can eat.
Wagamamas have their own vegan menu, Pizza hut have vegan pizzas now as does zizzi's. Even Mcdonalds produced a vegan burger (out in sweden.) Sainsbury's have an increasing vegan range and Tesco's have appointed a head of vegan products. So yeah as the range of products and ease of purchase increases so will the number of vegans.


Edited by sitdownstandup (07 Jan 2018 2.36pm)

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 07 Jan 18 2.44pm

Transhumanist technology and post-scarcity technology.

I think we're rapidly approching a point where we can erradicate some aspects of physical death, through the use of bio-technology (digital conciousness, synthetic organs and cloning technology, will soon be able to replicate an entire person, with matching DNA, whilst cybernetics neurotechnology is rapidly becoming common place, eventually to the point where we could reasonably be possible to first transplant human brains into new bodies, and then potentially construct artifical means of storing and transfering memory as data contstructs.

Effectively a form of immortality. Can't cure the terminal disease, grow a new body from DNA and transplant yourself (biologically, or cybernetically) into a 21 year old body - eventually other bodies, any body, gender etc.

Related to this the technology to manipulate atomic structure and subatomic scale, will render the notion of value pointless, which is a potential crisis for society, as it renders capitalism redundant (as if you can manipluate on the atomic and subatomic scale, you can turn anything into anything else - creating a post-scarcity society.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 07 Jan 18 2.46pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I'm hoping that technology will eventually help us with this.

But yes.....the rate of population increase has been causing problems for society for decades already.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Jan 2018 1.29pm)

I think sooner or later a pandemic will resolve this. The classic problem of an expanding world population thats increasingly moving across borders - Sooner or later we'll be looking at a Spainish Flu equivilant, or worse. Spainish Flu killed 50m people world wide, in an era where mass transport and rapid transport was next to non-existant. In the modern age, something like that, could be spreading thoughout the world in days rather than weeks, rendering any attempt at quarentine redundent.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 07 Jan 18 2.48pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Ever watch Logan's run?

Na, seriously there are lots of ways from immigration control to controversial restrictions on births......With future tech such as the anti aging technologies we are close to making breakthroughs on we are likely to need something.....our population is rocketing and the world's population is generally.

There are underground cities or even further in the future floating ones.

But feeding this human expansion is going to be another problem.....again....technology will answer that or it's going to be horrible.

Lovely.
Births are already being controlled but the effects won't be see for a couple of centuries and by then the population will be near 20 billion.

We will need a lot moe fresh water and food but can you imgine a population of triple what it is now co existing?
War, famine, disease on an a scale never seen before.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 07 Jan 18 2.49pm

Originally posted by sitdownstandup

There's more than bean burgers that vegans can eat.
Wagamamas have their own vegan menu, Pizza hut have vegan pizzas now as does zizzi's. Even Mcdonalds produced a vegan burger (out in sweden.) Sainsbury's have an increasing vegan range and Tesco's have appointed a head of vegan products. So yeah as the range of products and ease of purchase increases so will the number of vegans.


Edited by sitdownstandup (07 Jan 2018 2.36pm)

Veganism has its place in the marketplace of ideas.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 07 Jan 18 2.51pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

I think sooner or later a pandemic will resolve this. The classic problem of an expanding world population thats increasingly moving across borders - Sooner or later we'll be looking at a Spainish Flu equivilant, or worse. Spainish Flu killed 50m people world wide, in an era where mass transport and rapid transport was next to non-existant. In the modern age, something like that, could be spreading thoughout the world in days rather than weeks, rendering any attempt at quarentine redundent.

That's only a temporary resolving.....and not a particularly good method neither.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Jan 2018 2.51pm)

 


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