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View Croydonlad's Profile Croydonlad Flag sydenham 03 Mar 18 6.57pm Send a Private Message to Croydonlad Add Croydonlad as a friend

Those of you who love to abuse my thoughts and call me a troll would maybe like to remember back in August when I was demanding that FDB got FIRED immediately after the Huddersfield joke.
My reasons were that even when he was eventually fired it would mean that because such terrible damage had already been done that we would always be in a relegation fight for the rest of the season.
Where are we now ??
So many of you said , oh nonsense we will go on a run etc etc
The problem is , when you are that far behind whatever run you got on has to be exclusive of every other team otherwise you cant get free .
FDB was a complete disaster for this club
Should have been fired after the first game
Roy has performed miracles to get us where we are
I feel we will JUST avoid relegation , JUST .
Thank god we have WBA last game

 

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View chateauferret's Profile chateauferret Flag Airdrie 03 Mar 18 7.01pm Send a Private Message to chateauferret Add chateauferret as a friend

Originally posted by Croydonlad

Those of you who love to abuse my thoughts and call me a troll would maybe like to remember back in August when I was demanding that FDB got FIRED immediately after the Huddersfield joke.
My reasons were that even when he was eventually fired it would mean that because such terrible damage had already been done that we would always be in a relegation fight for the rest of the season.
Where are we now ??
So many of you said , oh nonsense we will go on a run etc etc
The problem is , when you are that far behind whatever run you got on has to be exclusive of every other team otherwise you cant get free .
FDB was a complete disaster for this club
Should have been fired after the first game
Roy has performed miracles to get us where we are
I feel we will JUST avoid relegation , JUST .
Thank god we have WBA last game

I don't think any reasonable Board would fire a manager after one single game, no matter how bad the performance. He was given a chance to sort his s*** out. You do seem to have forgotten also that Zaha was injured in that match.

 


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View Booted Eagle's Profile Booted Eagle Flag Bristol 03 Mar 18 7.07pm Send a Private Message to Booted Eagle Add Booted Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by chateauferret

I don't think any reasonable Board would fire a manager after one single game, no matter how bad the performance. He was given a chance to sort his s*** out. You do seem to have forgotten also that Zaha was injured in that match.

Agree. More chance of firing a manager after no games than one.

 


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View ta11berg's Profile ta11berg Flag birmingham 03 Mar 18 8.52pm Send a Private Message to ta11berg Add ta11berg as a friend

I agree Zaha was injured for the following games and that was clearly a factor.But de Boer did hang him out to dry leaving him our sole attacking outlet,playing Townsend in a defensive role so Huddersfield took the opportunity to go in gang handed to kick him off the park,thus the injury

 

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View Rachid Rachid Rachid's Profile Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 03 Mar 18 9.00pm Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

Never thought I’d be so fickle as to want a manager gone after one game but felt the same way.

Points lost at home to Hudddersfield and Swansea look a bit sick now.

 

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View Casual's Profile Casual Flag Orpington 03 Mar 18 9.41pm Send a Private Message to Casual Add Casual as a friend

Originally posted by Croydonlad

Those of you who love to abuse my thoughts and call me a troll would maybe like to remember back in August when I was demanding that FDB got FIRED immediately after the Huddersfield joke.
My reasons were that even when he was eventually fired it would mean that because such terrible damage had already been done that we would always be in a relegation fight for the rest of the season.
Where are we now ??
So many of you said , oh nonsense we will go on a run etc etc
The problem is , when you are that far behind whatever run you got on has to be exclusive of every other team otherwise you cant get free .
FDB was a complete disaster for this club
Should have been fired after the first game
Roy has performed miracles to get us where we are
I feel we will JUST avoid relegation , JUST .
Thank god we have WBA last game

I thought you was a mug at the start of the season to be honest.
We tried something, didn’t work and was changed within 4 games, can’t remember a new manager going so quick.
We’d have been in a relegation either way.
Still think you are a mug though.

 

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View Vaibow's Profile Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 03 Mar 18 10.22pm Send a Private Message to Vaibow Add Vaibow as a friend

Originally posted by Croydonlad

Those of you who love to abuse my thoughts and call me a troll would maybe like to remember back in August when I was demanding that FDB got FIRED immediately after the Huddersfield joke.
My reasons were that even when he was eventually fired it would mean that because such terrible damage had already been done that we would always be in a relegation fight for the rest of the season.
Where are we now ??
So many of you said , oh nonsense we will go on a run etc etc
The problem is , when you are that far behind whatever run you got on has to be exclusive of every other team otherwise you cant get free .
FDB was a complete disaster for this club
Should have been fired after the first game
Roy has performed miracles to get us where we are
I feel we will JUST avoid relegation , JUST .
Thank god we have WBA last game

Yup, you made it clear FDB was wrong for us and it was proven or at least, too much damage was done to fix things on his side of the fence.

Starting a race 7 laps behind is always going to be an uphill battle as that means its constant catchup, rather than leg room for a dip in form.

Couple of seasons ago the sky was the limit we were told and i honestly think if he wasn't called FDB he wouldn't have got the job. i believe Hodgson was always interviewed at the time. On paper, who was more experienced, more suited to us, Hodgson so why go for FDB besides getting all excited at how it sounds.

Last summer should have been Roy, with a window in august to tweak and then this jan another tweak. But we can go back and say that SA walking hurt us, just as we can say keeping AP on another season hurt us, just as Pulis walking or letting Holloway buy anyone that answered his emails.

The common factor there, Parish not really being that experienced on the running of the football side - which isn't his fault, he had no experience prior, but sometimes you gotta be the bigger man and say 'i am out of my depth here, let's appoint a chairman and i will stay owner'.

 


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View essetwentyone's Profile essetwentyone Flag london 04 Mar 18 6.08am Send a Private Message to essetwentyone Add essetwentyone as a friend

I also called for FDB to be sacked after the first game!
It was obvious that the man was clueless - his team selection was a joke and his so called stylish play was never going to work with the squad we had. Huddersfield did a job in us with Wilf a target to be stopped at all costs which resulted in his injury. I called for SP to be bold, acknowledge his mistake and cut his losses immediately - unfortunately it took him 3 more games to come to that decision.

We talk about the first 7 games being lost but when you consider that 3 of them were away to the current top 3 teams in the league we should consider the problem as only 4 games all of which were winnable but at least drawable - what a difference just 1 win or 3 draws would’ve made now ?

I understand how difficult it must’ve been for SP to admit his mistake and sack his chosen manager after just 4 games but give him credit for doing so. It looked like Roy’s appointment was genius as he took us clear of the relegation zone but then we had terrible luck with the worst injury crisis I can remember - not just strains or hammies but long term injuries that had nothing to do with a lack of fitness training - just sheer bad luck !

On top of all that our £30 million striker has had a mare of a season with a tally of only 2 goals being totally unacceptable. This lack of goals highlighted his unacceptable low level of effort !! Without doubt we should have bought cover for this striker position and that was the other big failing of our season.

We now find ourselves back in the relegation zone but we can get out of it if we get injured players back especially Wilf. The next 2 games will be damage limitation but after that we can pull clear as long as Roy has the players available.

I have seen us relegated 7 times before but if we go down this year it will go down as the most avoidable. If we do stay up then SP has to learn the lesson for our future success.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Online Flag 04 Mar 18 8.53am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Croydonlad

I feel we will JUST avoid relegation , JUST
Thank god we have WBA last game

Remember last season when we played Burnley at Selhurst and they hadn't won a game away from home at all - until they played us.

Just saying

 

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View Croydonlad's Profile Croydonlad Flag sydenham 04 Mar 18 10.11pm Send a Private Message to Croydonlad Add Croydonlad as a friend

All good responses above
Apart from the " mug " quote
Not sure whats " muggy " about my observation

 

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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 04 Mar 18 10.43pm

Originally posted by Croydonlad

All good responses above
Apart from the " mug " quote
Not sure whats " muggy " about my observation

The way you present it.

 


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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 04 Mar 18 11.46pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Regardless of why, sad to say the first seven game run is what puts us most at risk. Even if we had taken 5/6 pts from those games our position and survival chances would be totally different.

Throw on the Benteke penalty incident and there you go, possibly 8/9 pts better off.

 

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