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View Bogeyman's Profile Bogeyman Flag Falmouth, Cornwall 18 Mar 18 12.46am Send a Private Message to Bogeyman Add Bogeyman as a friend

With Fosou-Mensah and Loftus-Cheek returning to fitness, and the magnificent Wan-Bissaka now establishing himself in the starting eleven, there is now the genuine prospect of three players appearing on the pitch at the same time with double-barrelled surnames! Is this a new world record?

I think this merits serious and careful research...

(not to mention Van Aanholt! Strictly speaking, not a double-barrelled surname, but not far off!)

 


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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Flag London 18 Mar 18 3.34am Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Surprised the PC brigade donít have a pop at this one.
Obviously double barrelled refers to a shotgun which surely they canít approve.
Maybe they should ban such dangerous wording or even ban two names.
What do you PC types think?

 

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View bmouth eagle's Profile bmouth eagle Flag Carshalton 18 Mar 18 6.48am Send a Private Message to bmouth eagle Add bmouth eagle as a friend

If you look at the young England sides that did so well recently, they are filled with double-barreled names. There seems to be a massive trend with young British families adopting a double-barrel instead of one surname.

Calvert-Lewin, Maitland-Niles, Ward-Prowse, Alexander-Arnold, Walker-Peters, Carter-Vickers are a few other examples.

 

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View becky's Profile becky Flag over the moon 18 Mar 18 8.15am Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

b******s the lot of them.......in a genealogical sense.

Once double barrelled names were the prerogative of the titled and upper classes, where the practice was adopted to prevent old dynastical names from dying out when there was no male heir to carry it on, or one male inherited two equal titles from either side of a family.

Nowadays, it is usually used by unmarried partnerships to equally recognise both parents, and also prevents problems with differing parent/child surnames at school etc.

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 18 Mar 18 8.19am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by becky

Nowadays, it is usually used by unmarried partnerships to equally recognise both parents, and also prevents problems with differing parent/child surnames at school etc.

So what would happen if Fosu-Mensah married Loftus-Cheek's sister?

Would their offsprings be Fosu-Mensah-Loftus-Cheek?

 

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View ripleyeagle's Profile ripleyeagle Flag Ripley Surrey 18 Mar 18 9.29am Send a Private Message to ripleyeagle Add ripleyeagle as a friend

Originally posted by bmouth eagle

If you look at the young England sides that did so well recently, they are filled with double-barreled names. There seems to be a massive trend with young British families adopting a double-barrel instead of one surname.

Calvert-Lewin, Maitland-Niles, Ward-Prowse, Alexander-Arnold, Walker-Peters, Carter-Vickers are a few other examples.

I hate to say this but this over use of double-barrel surnames smacks of self importance from people who probably shop at Aldi.Not politically correct but hey ho.

 

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View Adam_Eagle's Profile Adam_Eagle Flag MK 18 Mar 18 10.30am Send a Private Message to Adam_Eagle Add Adam_Eagle as a friend

I hate them, sounds so poncy

 

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View pstrutt's Profile pstrutt Flag Busselton, WA 18 Mar 18 10.32am Send a Private Message to pstrutt Add pstrutt as a friend

Originally posted by ripleyeagle

I hate to say this but this over use of double-barrel surnames smacks of self importance from people who probably shop at Aldi.Not politically correct but hey ho.

All women who work in HR with DB names are impossible to please.

 


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View Pete53's Profile Pete53 Flag Hassocks 18 Mar 18 10.58am Send a Private Message to Pete53 Add Pete53 as a friend

Does anyone remember Forbes Phillipson-Masters who played in the 1970s? That was a name and a half, particularly for a footballer.


 

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View becky's Profile becky Flag over the moon 18 Mar 18 11.04am Send a Private Message to becky Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add becky as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

So what would happen if Fosu-Mensah married Loftus-Cheek's sister?

Would their offsprings be Fosu-Mensah-Loftus-Cheek?

Probably...... until Mrs. Fosu-Mensah-Loftus-Cheek had to write and sew all the name tapes into the FMLC juniors' school stuff

 


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chateauferret Flag 18 Mar 18 11.11am

Originally posted by becky

b******s the lot of them.......in a genealogical sense.

Once double barrelled names were the prerogative of the titled and upper classes, where the practice was adopted to prevent old dynastical names from dying out when there was no male heir to carry it on, or one male inherited two equal titles from either side of a family.

Nowadays, it is usually used by unmarried partnerships to equally recognise both parents, and also prevents problems with differing parent/child surnames at school etc.

Not all cultures and languages derive surnames and second names in the same way. The rules for calculating someone's surname in Spanish have a similar objective but are quite complicated. And if you're Icelandic you don't have a surname at all: you have a patronymic only, and your children get your name as a patronymic, and so on. So in the case of Gylfi Sigurdhsson for example that isn't a family name at all. Sometimes Icelanders who go abroad break that tradition, as in the case of Magnus Magnusson's daughter who ought to be called Magnusdottir. But anyway.

You're allowed to change your name and call yourself whatever you want. Some footballers have pseudonyms. I once worked in a business where we had a customer who didn't want to work and got fed up with the Job Centre sending him for interviews, so in order to make sure nobody they sent him to ever offered him employment he changed his surname by deed poll to "Toilet-Seat".

 


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View eddiqc's Profile eddiqc Flag Tunbridge wells 18 Mar 18 11.26am Send a Private Message to eddiqc Add eddiqc as a friend

Originally posted by chateauferret

I once worked in a business where we had a customer who didn't want to work and got fed up with the Job Centre sending him for interviews, so in order to make sure nobody they sent him to ever offered him employment he changed his surname by deed poll to "Toilet-Seat".

Those are the kind of people who should be drinking bleach on a daily basis.

 

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