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View Rubin's Profile Rubin Flag 07 Jan 20 8.09am Send a Private Message to Rubin Add Rubin as a friend

Alternatively, as we're fairly safe this season, January could be the ideal time to sell him as it would give us half a season for Roy to see what players we need to make up for his loss, and hopefully stop us being held over a barrel quite so much, knowing that we need to replace him within the summer window.

 

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Tipp_Eagle Flag Tipperary 07 Jan 20 8.14am

Very petty Midlands !

 


oh yeah ,fcuk off brighton.

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View Lanzo-Ad's Profile Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 07 Jan 20 8.24am Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by Rubin

Alternatively, as we're fairly safe this season, January could be the ideal time to sell him as it would give us half a season for Roy to see what players we need to make up for his loss, and hopefully stop us being held over a barrel quite so much, knowing that we need to replace him within the summer window.

I think that is a very good point, 3 wins and a draw from safety, if we get 4 points from Arsenal, Man city and Southampton before the window shuts could be good if Bats is involved in the deal.

 

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View chris123's Profile chris123 Flag hove actually 07 Jan 20 8.33am Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

What's the price at which Wilf would actually go.

I.e. one that satisfies the buyer and us. Forget £80m. He's 2 years & 10 months from being 30.

Who buys him now buys a player only to win things/secure Champions League football. And his goals & assists ratio is very poor for £80m and zero resale value. And there are other ways to do the same that are better long term.

All the way down to £65m, I struggle to see why they would pay.

At £60ish million it starts to make a little more sense for a buyer (but would still be problematic for lack of resale).

But knock off 15% as Man U's cut (I've read bigger and smaller but 15% seems to have been the recurring figure). We are left with £51m. Difficult for us.

Maybe Man U come in with £55m. He lifts them up the notch they need to guarantee CL football. He adds even more pace on the opposite flank to Rashford.

Right or wrong, I'm convinced Parish feels a sense of fair play to let him go. And the moneyball-minded yanks will look at his age and stats and agree.

But even at £55m net to us, I'm not convinced he'll go for the reasons stated. It's a gamble for everyone.

I think his agent will tell him to play his bollocks off til summer to finally show his capabilities. Otherwise, he may well see out bus career at Selhurst.

He signed a new 5 year deal at the beginning of last season - so not sure about fair play.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 07 Jan 20 10.05am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

There will be no resale value for Wilf due to his age I guess that puts a lot of clubs off the fee.

Personally I want him to stay but if he goes it won't be for £80m.

 


One more point

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View Ginger Pubic Wig's Profile Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 07 Jan 20 11.15am Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

Originally posted by chris123

He signed a new 5 year deal at the beginning of last season - so not sure about fair play.

I think assurances were given that were taken on trust by Wilf as part of their long term relationship. Those assurances were never put into contract. This has been alluded to now and again in many articles.

 

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View chris123's Profile chris123 Flag hove actually 07 Jan 20 11.27am Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

I think assurances were given that were taken on trust by Wilf as part of their long term relationship. Those assurances were never put into contract. This has been alluded to now and again in many articles.

At the time Parish said that Wilf was worth “more to us than what anybody would ever pay us” - do you think that has changed then?

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 07 Jan 20 11.44am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by chris123

At the time Parish said that Wilf was worth “more to us than what anybody would ever pay us” - do you think that has changed then?

That is true, but at some point Zaha leaves for money or retires. Either that has to be dealt with or the club is sold, and richer, or people willing to invest/spend their money, cover his retirement or eventual sale of not very much. Or he could get a long term injury or become less and less effective.

I think what has been forgotten again is player power or sulk power, and Zaha and the press aren’t going to keep quiet in fear of detention. The pressure to let him go to a bigger club will continue until he’s no use to them and possibly little use to us.

We should face reality and rebuild after a summer parting of ways.

 


COYP

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Online Flag 07 Jan 20 12.27pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend


The more time goes by the harder it is to see where he’d go. Hudson-Odoi is fit again at Chelsea and Lampard doesn’t seem desperate to sign him. The Mirror says his agent has spoken to Bayern Munich but they have an option to buy Coutinho for £109m in the summer so they’d be breaking the German transfer record twice in one window.

 

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View KAOS's Profile KAOS Flag In a tree 07 Jan 20 12.39pm Send a Private Message to KAOS Add KAOS as a friend

PSG might be the best opp for him and us now. They can pay a large fee, he gets CL football, he can speak a bit of French allegedly and it's only 2 hours from London ...

 

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View robforbe's Profile robforbe Flag cornwall 07 Jan 20 7.55pm Send a Private Message to robforbe Add robforbe as a friend

Please correct me if I'm wrong, going from memory.
Sold to utd for £15 mill..loaned back..got us promoted.
Bought back for 10 mill.?
4/5 seasons in prem? Wouldn't say single handedly but contributed a great to this current stay in the prem.

Has played within himself this season( all be it with no creative support)

Hes going this month, or in the summer.

His value ( to potential buyers) is going down.

I speculate that we will get 40-50 mill + honours add ons.

So circa 65 mill in minus the 10 we paid utd for him minus another 15 for sell ons to utd = 40 mill.

£40 mill net plus his input in getting us into the prem and staying there.

Is that really so bad for an academy product?

Sorry if that seemed complicated but the 40 mill net bit is the key.

 

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View robforbe's Profile robforbe Flag cornwall 07 Jan 20 8.13pm Send a Private Message to robforbe Add robforbe as a friend

The drawback of desperately trying to keep him here and aspire (to something we were never gonna be) was buying benteke and Sahko for fees would could not afford on wages we still cannot afford, therefore getting us into the current financial $hite we are clearly in now.

The owners mortgaged the club in a gamble around keeping wilf here and trying to build something around him.

It failed unfortunately.

 

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