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This post has been merged from a topic called 'lets plan life without zaha NOW' by bexleydave

as much as i like zaha, i cant wait to get rid of him and plan life with out him! hes our weakest link when you actually sit and think about it

why does every attack have to go through him? its all we do.... we get in front of goal on the edge of the box we get it in a good area then...... we pass wide to him every time, other teams must read us like a book. 2 assists and 3 goals in 25 games proves it

this style of play obviously doesnt work as we have scored the least goals in the entire division!!

as much as it pains me to say it the whole time we have him in the team we are not going to progress as a team and break above 10th or maybe just maybe push for europe..... other wise we would of done it by now

 

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View kevlee's Profile kevlee Flag born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 02 Feb 20 11.23am Send a Private Message to kevlee Add kevlee as a friend

All the attacks go through him as he is the only gifted attacking player we have.
Who else will run at players with the ball apart from Andros?
I thought Wilfred was by far our best player yesterday.

 


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Originally posted by kevlee

All the attacks go through him as he is the only gifted attacking player we have.
Who else will run at players with the ball apart from Andros?
I thought Wilfred was by far our best player yesterday.

I agree Wilf played well yesterday, and hopefully he'll continue to do so. As to who else can do it apart from him and Andros, well let me suggest Ayew can if he's allowed to play more centrally. If we want to be more positive in our play we really need Andros on the right, Wilf on the left and Ayew supporting a CF (presumably Tosun when he's back). It means a riskier formation but at least it would be more watchable.

 

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View A1969Eagle's Profile A1969Eagle Flag Redhill 02 Feb 20 2.01pm Send a Private Message to A1969Eagle Add A1969Eagle as a friend

Do you watch the same games as me?

Ayew is brilliant with no fear and tight turning circle, driving at players, he did yesterday but hes great at running them through the middle not the wings...

Originally posted by kevlee

All the attacks go through him as he is the only gifted attacking player we have.
Who else will run at players with the ball apart from Andros?
I thought Wilfred was by far our best player yesterday.

 

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View A1969Eagle's Profile A1969Eagle Flag Redhill 02 Feb 20 2.02pm Send a Private Message to A1969Eagle Add A1969Eagle as a friend

and whose going to create the balls they need?

Originally posted by doombear

I agree Wilf played well yesterday, and hopefully he'll continue to do so. As to who else can do it apart from him and Andros, well let me suggest Ayew can if he's allowed to play more centrally. If we want to be more positive in our play we really need Andros on the right, Wilf on the left and Ayew supporting a CF (presumably Tosun when he's back). It means a riskier formation but at least it would be more watchable.

 

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Originally posted by A1969Eagle

and whose going to create the balls they need?

Riederwald for one if he's given the chance and McArthur is generally ok in that department. Luca used to be ok and so should have it in him. Much depends on the mentality. If the manager adopts a more positive approach, players will start to think in terms of moving the ball forwards more quickly.

 

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Originally posted by doombear

I agree Wilf played well yesterday, and hopefully he'll continue to do so. As to who else can do it apart from him and Andros, well let me suggest Ayew can if he's allowed to play more centrally. If we want to be more positive in our play we really need Andros on the right, Wilf on the left and Ayew supporting a CF (presumably Tosun when he's back). It means a riskier formation but at least it would be more watchable.

I sort of agree with this but I would stick with 4-3-3 and play Ayew as the striker and put either Meyer or Riedewald in a central midfield role behind Ayew. They are the only two midfielders who can pick a pass IMO. As long as Wilf and Andros both cut inside and join the attack I think we will have some success. As others have rightly said however, we tend to play a 7-3 formation which means the midfielders get a nose bleed if they cross too far over the halfway line at present. That also needs to change.

 

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Originally posted by Eaglecoops

I sort of agree with this but I would stick with 4-3-3 and play Ayew as the striker and put either Meyer or Riedewald in a central midfield role behind Ayew. They are the only two midfielders who can pick a pass IMO. As long as Wilf and Andros both cut inside and join the attack I think we will have some success. As others have rightly said however, we tend to play a 7-3 formation which means the midfielders get a nose bleed if they cross too far over the halfway line at present. That also needs to change.

I did think of just having Ayew centrally but we still need midfielders supporting him when either of the two wingers are cutting inside, so as to help create space. However, like you infer, generally they seem to be part of the defence., although to be fair they were in more forward positions yesterday but to no avail.

 

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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Rotational fouling of Zaha' by bexleydave

I was in the local Audi dealership this morning (I am lucky enough to have a nice car) and came across an article by Matthew Syed in The Times.

With an introductory reference to the game against Sheffield United, he made a strong case for Rotational Fouling to be taken more seriously than is currently the case. He pointed out that of the last 5 occasions a player was fouled 8 or more times in a single game, 3 of those were against Zaha. He suggested a lower threshold should be applied to the subsequent fouling of a player, so the perpetrator would be booked more easily if the targeted player had already been fouled several times. He also referenced Deeney's comments against Zaha.

Let's see if that starts a debate outside Palace circles. I am not holding my breath. Madley's performance on Saturday was further evidence, if more were required, of the unwillingness of refs to really protect Zaha.


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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Rotational fouling of Zaha' by bexleydave

well said and same for players like Grealish, they are all getting rotational fouling so it needs to asked why CP are not doing it to the other team lol?

 

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Originally posted by A1969Eagle

well said and same for players like Grealish, they are all getting rotational fouling so it needs to asked why CP are not doing it to the other team lol?

Unfortunately we just leave it to Milivojevic hence he gets booked every week.

I would expand dealing with rotational fouling to professional fouling as well. The professional foul is becoming more and more prevalent in our beautiful game, Man City being one of the main protagonists. Watch whenever they play, if someone goes past them in a semi dangerous part of the field they will be held back, tripped or whatever to stop the play. They generally get away with the first couple too.

All fouls such as these should be instant yellows or preferably a yellow and 10 minutes in the sin bin.

 

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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Rotational fouling of Zaha' by bexleydave

Yes, teams that have one or two key players are always targeted by some teams, Watford, Sheff utd, Southampton and Tottenham are some of the worst offenders, I don't blame them if they get away with it, the problem is poor refereeing as usual, and their lack of realising what is going on.

 

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