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View Griffish's Profile Griffish Flag Croydon 25 Apr 18 9.59am Send a Private Message to Griffish Add Griffish as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

That's just opting to maintain mediocrity. A team would never improve with this mentality. These players are not good enough. Get over it.

Teams need players to challenge for starter positions, not settle for being on the bench

I'm really not opting for mediocrity. Joel Ward as 2nd choice RB, Kelly as 4th choice CB (3rd choice RB), Hennessy as 2nd choice keeper. I really don't see what is wrong there when we obviously won't have much money to spend.

I'd love to be able to replace these players, but we've spent well above ourselves on transfers and wages in recent seasons, there's no way that we can go out and replace the whole squad. They are dependable professional players who would not cause dressing room unrest if they were subs.

As for Van Der Wiel? 30 years old and has played about 20 games in the last couple of years, couldn't get into the first team in his last two clubs and now plays in the MLS? Nah I'm alright thanks.

 

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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 25 Apr 18 11.40am

Hennessey will have to be happy being a non challenging backup keeper which I don’t think he will be.
Ward might fancy a new challenge. He gets better when he’s playing games consistently.

 


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View Qwijibo's Profile Qwijibo Flag Bournemouth 25 Apr 18 12.20pm Send a Private Message to Qwijibo Add Qwijibo as a friend

Originally posted by JRW2

Can't remember his name - came from Spurs, played right back, scored a significant goal against Norwich and all was forgiven.

Dean austin?

Kuqi seemed to have an upturn. Personally never wanted him. Was a really bad side at that time.

 

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View Qwijibo's Profile Qwijibo Flag Bournemouth 25 Apr 18 12.27pm Send a Private Message to Qwijibo Add Qwijibo as a friend

Originally posted by rollercoaster

Great post. I have to confess that I am a pessimist ("no, really" and all season (every season) I have been expecting the worst. Just a whiff now that we might be all right. If we stay up we will need one heck of a Summer if we have any chance of having a better season next year. A huge amount depends on Roy staying another season.

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if Southampton, West Brom and stoke go down, it really shows that no one from probably the bottom 13 sides this season can assume they're safe next season. A massive decline from 3 established sides, so I think a touch of cautious pessimism is fine!

If Cabaye goes we need to have a really successful replacement. It's these types of fine lines that can be the difference. Surely (surely) we've already outlined targets and we're not going to wait until the August bank holiday before we start googling footballers.

Whilst I'm not opposed to MacArthur and Cabaye going, we need to remember the extend of the injuries we've had this season. In an ideal world they'd simply be upgraded without being replaced, so we have greater depth.

 

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View Qwijibo's Profile Qwijibo Flag Bournemouth 25 Apr 18 12.32pm Send a Private Message to Qwijibo Add Qwijibo as a friend

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

It needn’t be that complicated or hard to recruit in the off season. The Watford’s and Burnley’s seem to do well each year with minimal fuss. We’ve shown that we can be quite succinct in the past with signings like Tomkins. Pretty sure that we’ll have our ducks in line this summer and get things done nice and early.
We had the f*ckeries of FDB to contend with last summer and I think it’s left a lot of fans with the jitters.

Watford have an extensive European network, Burnley work within their local area.

I never get the impression we have a strategy. Feels like we just sign players that are offered to us by agents, hence why they're always linked to loads of clubs of similar stature. Sure I'm talking s***, but that's just how it comes across!

 

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View eddiqc's Profile eddiqc Flag Tunbridge wells 25 Apr 18 12.42pm Send a Private Message to eddiqc Add eddiqc as a friend

Personally, I'd like to see us get a new striker, goalkeeper (using Hennessey as 2nd choice) and midfielder at the very least.

I'd also like to see Delaney, Ward (only if there's a replacement or a new backup for AWB) and Benteke go.

 

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View dynamicdick's Profile dynamicdick Flag Dormansland 25 Apr 18 12.58pm Send a Private Message to dynamicdick Add dynamicdick as a friend

Originally posted by Qwijibo
Watford have an extensive European network, Burnley work within their local area.

I never get the impression we have a strategy. Feels like we just sign players that are offered to us by agents, hence why they're always linked to loads of clubs of similar stature. Sure I'm talking s***, but that's just how it comes across!

100% agree

 


Bring back Brolin

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View TastyJerk's Profile TastyJerk 25 Apr 18 1.10pm Send a Private Message to TastyJerk Add TastyJerk as a friend

To go out of contract
Speroni
Delaney
Lee
Ward

To go back from loan
TFM
Ruben
Rakip

To go transfer if we can
Williams
Soaure
Kaiki
Puncheon

Keep the rest if we can

Add
Keeper
Right back
Centre Mid
Attacking Mid
Striker

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 25 Apr 18 1.30pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Qwijibo

if Southampton, West Brom and stoke go down, it really shows that no one from probably the bottom 13 sides this season can assume they're safe next season. A massive decline from 3 established sides, so I think a touch of cautious pessimism is fine!

If Cabaye goes we need to have a really successful replacement. It's these types of fine lines that can be the difference. Surely (surely) we've already outlined targets and we're not going to wait until the August bank holiday before we start googling footballers.

Whilst I'm not opposed to MacArthur and Cabaye going, we need to remember the extend of the injuries we've had this season. In an ideal world they'd simply be upgraded without being replaced, so we have greater depth.

The window is open early. 17th May, and closes early:

Thursday 9th August, just before the 1st prem match.

Some good posts on this thread.

 


COYP

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View Mstrobez's Profile Mstrobez Flag 25 Apr 18 1.48pm Send a Private Message to Mstrobez Add Mstrobez as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

The window is open early. 17th May, and closes early:

Thursday 9th August, just before the 1st prem match.

Some good posts on this thread.

Still cannot believe premier league clubs unanimously supported this.

A recipe for a lot of the lesser teams in the league to get their calculations horribly wrong. Given the fact we can barely mock up a transfer window that meets basic requirements, even after playing a few competitive games, this new deadline worry’s the f*** out of me.

 


We're the Arthur over ere!

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View EagleinSF's Profile EagleinSF Flag San Fransisco 25 Apr 18 7.51pm Send a Private Message to EagleinSF Add EagleinSF as a friend

Originally posted by Qwijibo

If Cabaye goes we need to have a really successful replacement. It's these types of fine lines that can be the difference. Surely (surely) we've already outlined targets and we're not going to wait until the August bank holiday before we start googling footballers.

My take on it is that we do identify targets, but we're way down on the pecking order so agents hold out - usually until the last day - and we struggle to get it done.

With Dougie in place I'm sure we've got some form of plan. I suspect that management knows who will stay and who will go - depending on whether we're still in the PL next season.

One things for sure - it'll be another roller coaster ride and HOL will have at least one melt down before the next season starts!

 

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View Casual's Profile Casual Flag Orpington 25 Apr 18 8.43pm Send a Private Message to Casual Add Casual as a friend

Imagine a transfer window where we get players that can actually get a pre season in, with the first team. We must lose about 5 points a year by buying our players a few games into the season, then realising they aren’t match fit.
Hope Rudi is right , the transfer window should always ‘slam shut’ before the first ball is kicked.

 

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