Gun violence on London's streets 'must stop'
Register | Edit Profile | Subscriptions | Forum Rules | Log In | RSS Feed
 europalace  Europe 07 May 18 8.51pm |
  |
|---|---|
|
Not good at all:
|
|
 Alert a moderator to this post |
  |
Stirlingsays  07 May 18 9.19pm |
 |
|---|---|
|
All this waffle about knife crime, yet this is the same mob who were crying about racism and stop and search! The mothers of murder victims have been saying the same stuff for decades nay probably since societies were thought civilised.....guess what, those that murder aren't interested. Soft touchy feely Policing added to less Police just gets you higher criminality. The social damage of no fathers can't be solved as that is cultural within communities. If you want to reduce knife crime, target teenage gangs and enforce proper sentences. It's hardly rocket science.....they let the population rapidly rise but didn't build more prisons and infrastructure. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 May 2018 9.20pm)
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Badger11 Beckenham 07 May 18 9.38pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Stirlingsays
All this waffle about knife crime, yet this is the same mob who were crying about racism and stop and search! The mothers of murder victims have been saying the same stuff for decades nay probably since societies were thought civilised.....guess what, those that murder aren't interested. Soft touchy feely Policing added to less Police just gets you higher criminality. The social damage of no fathers can't be solved as that is cultural within communities. If you want to reduce knife crime, target teenage gangs and enforce proper sentences. It's hardly rocket science.....they let the population rapidly rise but didn't build more prisons and infrastructure. Edited by Stirlingsays (07 May 2018 9.20pm) Exactly. The usual suspects complain about police harassment and then in the same breath "we never see the police around here and they don't care". This sort of crime will not be solved solely by policing although a bit of zero tolerance wouldn't go amiss. To some extant the solution lies in the hand of the "community". This mother blames the police for her son's death. Whilst I understand her grief she is simply wrong. Too many people in the "community" know who the "perps" are but refuse to co-operate with the police and then blame the cops when no one is convicted. I hear so called community leaders and experts blame racism and lack of opportunities for young people. This is not the deep south and these kids have the same chance at education as the rest of us did. The question we need to ask is why then do many young men from a certain background ignore the opportunities and prefer a life of crime. This however is not a conversation that the "community" wants to have, far better to blame it on someone else. Until then this problem will continue.
One more point |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
 Hrolf The Ganger 07 May 18 9.48pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Imagine how it will be in 50 years. If we must tolerate the negative effects of immigration to bolster the workforce, then the government should at least enforce law and order instead of pandering to whinging minorities to the detriment of public safety.
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| steeleye20 Croydon 07 May 18 9.52pm |
|
|---|---|
|
'Tough on crime tough on the causes of crime', labour can justifiably claim this to have been reasonably successful. Austerity, saving money running the police and other services down is behind this. Even now, still no response from the government. No emergency legislation, no restoration of police numbers, no idea what to do.
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Hrolf The Ganger 07 May 18 10.04pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by steeleye20
'Tough on crime tough on the causes of crime', labour can justifiably claim this to have been reasonably successful. Austerity, saving money running the police and other services down is behind this. Even now, still no response from the government. No emergency legislation, no restoration of police numbers, no idea what to do. You are just another Labour minion. The only thing Labour can lay claim to is wasting tax payers money on unnecessary administration
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
 becky over the moon 08 May 18 6.35am |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Badger11
Exactly. The usual suspects complain about police harassment and then in the same breath "we never see the police around here and they don't care". This sort of crime will not be solved solely by policing although a bit of zero tolerance wouldn't go amiss. To some extant the solution lies in the hand of the "community". This mother blames the police for her son's death. Whilst I understand her grief she is simply wrong. Too many people in the "community" know who the "perps" are but refuse to co-operate with the police and then blame the cops when no one is convicted. I hear so called community leaders and experts blame racism and lack of opportunities for young people. This is not the deep south and these kids have the same chance at education as the rest of us did. The question we need to ask is why then do many young men from a certain background ignore the opportunities and prefer a life of crime. This however is not a conversation that the "community" wants to have, far better to blame it on someone else. Until then this problem will continue. Better pay for less work.......? There also needs to be a long hard look taken at how these young people are getting their hands on weapons. I shoot at an accredited rifle range, and believe me you have to go through hoops in the gun shop before they will sell you even an air rifle, let alone all the checks and paperwork if you want a live ammunition one. So how does a 14-15 year old obtain one?
A stairway to Heaven and a Highway to Hell give some indication of expected traffic numbers |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post | Board Moderator |
|
Slimey Toad  Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 08 May 18 7.54am |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by becky
Better pay for less work.......? There also needs to be a long hard look taken at how these young people are getting their hands on weapons. I shoot at an accredited rifle range, and believe me you have to go through hoops in the gun shop before they will sell you even an air rifle, let alone all the checks and paperwork if you want a live ammunition one. So how does a 14-15 year old obtain one? Disturbingly it may be older men doing the shooting. There's likely a rite of passage from teenagers knifng to guns in adulthood.
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
aquickgame2  Beni = summer,Caribbean = winter 08 May 18 9.48am |
|
|---|---|
|
Getting sick of all this "Its everyone elses fault " Anyone caught with a weapon...2 years in the army,6 months no parole. Gotta be better than prison
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 08 May 18 10.13am |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by steeleye20
'Tough on crime tough on the causes of crime', labour can justifiably claim this to have been reasonably successful. Austerity, saving money running the police and other services down is behind this. Even now, still no response from the government. No emergency legislation, no restoration of police numbers, no idea what to do. You become ever more radio rental as each day goes by.
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
PalazioVecchio  south pole 08 May 18 10.44am |
|
|---|---|
|
what would you say to carry a knife or gun, get involuntary castration ? It takes the violence and aggression out of dogs. They are less deserving of castration most of the time as they...
Edited by PalazioVecchio (08 May 2018 10.45am)
Eze Peasy at Anfield.... |
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
| silvertop Portishead 08 May 18 12.16pm |
|
|---|---|
|
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Imagine how it will be in 50 years. If we must tolerate the negative effects of immigration to bolster the workforce, then the government should at least enforce law and order instead of pandering to whinging minorities to the detriment of public safety. I like the theme of your thread and others have touched on it. However, blaming immigration? At the moment, the perpetrators and victims of these crimes in London and Manchester are largely the descendants of the Windrush generation who came here over 50 years ago. They are not from the recent influx of Poles, Latvians and Romanians. Thus, are you proposing we aggressively target the Afro-Caribbean population? I think that was done before with disastrous consequences. Also, if you get into a nasty row in Darlington, Dundee or Doncaster and someone sticks a knife in you or kicks you in the head leaving you permanently disabled, they will invariably be white British.
|
|
| Alert a moderator to this post |
|
Login / Register
All images and text on this site are copyright © 1999-2023 The Holmesdale Online, unless otherwise stated.
Web Design by Guntrisoft Ltd.