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Who would have thought it? Saudi Arabia and Israel combining to push America to attack Iran?

Rather like the Third Reich's invasion of Russia on top of easy blitzkriegs on the low countries, Trump seems so full of himself bringing North Korea to line he thinks The Revolutionary Islamic Republic will be a cakewalk too.

 

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Originally posted by Slimey Toad

Who would have thought it? Saudi Arabia and Israel combining to push America to attack Iran?

Rather like the Third Reich's invasion of Russia on top of easy blitzkriegs on the low countries, Trump seems so full of himself bringing North Korea to line he thinks The Revolutionary Islamic Republic will be a cakewalk too.


Yep, Israel always looking for a fight and THE distablising 'nation' in the region. Without US funding, Israel would be on an economical scale as that of it's neigbours, which it itself would make the region much more stable.

 

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Originally posted by Slimey Toad
Who would have thought it? Saudi Arabia and Israel combining to push America to attack Iran?

Rather like the Third Reich's invasion of Russia on top of easy blitzkriegs on the low countries,

Who says they are going to attack Iran? They now don't need to.

Originally posted by Slimey Toad

he thinks The Revolutionary Islamic Republic will be a cakewalk too.

Well they were on their knees before Obama made the deal, remember??

Edited by Penge Eagle (09 May 2018 9.13am)

 

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The ideological left always gets foreign policy wrong. It's usually because they don't want to play by the rules of real human nature which is multifaceted and instead only want to appeal to its kinder side.

They are literally blind and deaf to history. It's like they don't like the facts on what worked so they just ignore them.

The only reason the Berlin wall came down and the Soviet Union collapsed was down to economics. The USSR eventually took the rational decision that the price paid for maintaining an adversarial if inferior military wasn't worth it. This would not have happened if your Corbyn types had held sway in the US.

The only reasons North Korea are making conciliatory noises is down to firm economic pressure and an obvious military disadvantage.

Obama's foreign policy was terrible. After the Iran deal Iran had far more to spend pushing its influence around the region. We can see those affects in Syria. All the deal achieves is in delaying Iranian access to nuclear weapons. It does nothing to solve the disease and only treats a symptom.

Edited by Stirlingsays (09 May 2018 9.19am)

 


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The United States of israel

 

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Originally posted by matthau

The United States of israel

The Jewish lobby is very powerful in the US. Too powerful for my liking.

But in terms of the middle east, Israel is the only real functioning democracy. It's a valid argument that the only thing stopping war is America's support.

If America stopped supporting Israel then just how long would it be before it was destroyed? This is not what we want.

Edited by Stirlingsays (09 May 2018 9.33am)

 


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Originally posted by matthau

The United States of israel

Better than the The United States of Iran.

I find it incredible people support Iran over the USA. Incredible.

Edited by Penge Eagle (09 May 2018 9.38am)

 

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Originally posted by Penge Eagle

Better than the The United States of Iran.

I find it incredible people support Iran over the USA. Incredible.

Edited by Penge Eagle (09 May 2018 9.38am)

Oh come on, there’s so much more to it than this one incident

The Russians trying to kill their ex agent and daughter, chemical false flags in Syria (the child in the chemical footage has since been filmed laughing about the incident and told us of white helmets asking the kids to act in pain. There have been so many random distructable incidents in such a small space of time that all allow the us to justify a reaction in some way, and Israel’s pm is right there backing.

It all stinks, even the guy who laughs at conspiracy theorists has to look twice at this joke of events

 

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Originally posted by matthau

Oh come on, there’s so much more to it than this one incident

The Russians trying to kill their ex agent and daughter, chemical false flags in Syria (the child in the chemical footage has since been filmed laughing about the incident and told us of white helmets asking the kids to act in pain. There have been so many random distructable incidents in such a small space of time that all allow the us to justify a reaction in some way, and Israel’s pm is right there backing.

It all stinks, even the guy who laughs at conspiracy theorists has to look twice at this joke of events

All well and good but I find that one's sympathies tend to dictate what one believes and disbelieves.

 

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Originally posted by matthau

Oh come on, there’s so much more to it than this one incident

The Russians trying to kill their ex agent and daughter, chemical false flags in Syria (the child in the chemical footage has since been filmed laughing about the incident and told us of white helmets asking the kids to act in pain. There have been so many random distructable incidents in such a small space of time that all allow the us to justify a reaction in some way, and Israel’s pm is right there backing.

It all stinks, even the guy who laughs at conspiracy theorists has to look twice at this joke of events

How do you know it's the same child? You talk about conspiracies but why do you discount a conspiracy to make you believe it's a false flag?

Could you provide a link for this.

Edited by Stirlingsays (09 May 2018 10.44am)

 


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Originally posted by matthau

Oh come on, there’s so much more to it than this one incident

The Russians trying to kill their ex agent and daughter, chemical false flags in Syria (the child in the chemical footage has since been filmed laughing about the incident and told us of white helmets asking the kids to act in pain. There have been so many random distructable incidents in such a small space of time that all allow the us to justify a reaction in some way, and Israel’s pm is right there backing.

It all stinks, even the guy who laughs at conspiracy theorists has to look twice at this joke of events

Trump promised to rip up the deal back while he was campaigning two years ago because it was a very badly negotiated deal that gives Iran far too much. Trump has come in to clean up the mess of virtue signalling Obama.

 

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

How do you know it's the same child? You talk about conspiracies but why do you discount a conspiracy to make you believe it's a false flag?

Could you provide a link for this.

Edited by Stirlingsays (09 May 2018 10.44am)

[Link]

 

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