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 Rudi Hedman  Caterham 06 Jun 20 11.58am |
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Originally posted by Belmont
Do you have a negative view of yourself because of the words and actions of angry white men ( if that is what you are). If the only issue we have is the mis pronouncing of a T I think we are in a good place. I wasn’t talking about my own views. I was talking about other people’s views. The angry scenes this week have been by young black people. When you have the same demographic of white people doing the same you can ask the question. The T’s weren’t pronounced at all. This is a barrier in professional life, whatever your skin colour. Part of the issues are bringing down barriers. Same expectations along with opportunities based on merit for everyone. No favouritism.
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| Belmont 06 Jun 20 12.02pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
I wasn’t talking about my own views. I was talking about other people’s views. The angry scenes this week have been by young black people. When you have the same demographic of white people doing the same you can ask the question. The T’s weren’t pronounced at all. This is a barrier in professional life, whatever your skin colour. Part of the issues are bringing down barriers. Same expectations along with opportunities based on merit for everyone. No favouritism. I dd ask the question the other day when I drew a parallel with the poll tax riots.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 06 Jun 20 12.02pm |
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Originally posted by Belmont
No black people are marching against your comment about growing up in South London and understanding why people view the whole of the black community the same based on the actions of some AND the actions of three people. No they aren't. That is a convenient position for you to take. Have you been marching? If so, what did you march for exactly? What personal grievance have you got? A dodgy copper in another country accidentally kills a convicted multiple armed robber in custody. How does that justify all this?
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 06 Jun 20 12.04pm |
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Originally posted by Belmont
No black people are marching against your comment about growing up in South London and understanding why people view the whole of the black community the same based on the actions of some AND the actions of three people. Ok. So what’s your view of bringing back stop and search for the good of the whole black community to get rid of the knives, knife culture, killings, assaults, fear, negative image and publicity?
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| Belmont 06 Jun 20 12.07pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Ok. So what’s your view of bringing back stop and search for the good of the whole black community to get rid of the knives, knife culture, killings, assaults, fear, negative image and publicity? I would put in policy for the police for the good of the whole community, do you somehow thunk that the black community doesn't know there is an issue with knife crime.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 06 Jun 20 12.09pm |
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Originally posted by Belmont
I dd ask the question the other day when I drew a parallel with the poll tax riots. Yes we’ll I’ve just said young black people, not black people who stay well clear of trouble, and the anti poll tax white people rioting were the usual crusty unemployed or unemployable. Anyone with any sense and a career they’d rather not damage with a criminal record would stay clear of any rioting like this. Most of the young black people were of college age.
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| Belmont 06 Jun 20 12.10pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
No they aren't. That is a convenient position for you to take. Have you been marching? If so, what did you march for exactly? What personal grievance have you got? A dodgy copper in another country accidentally kills a convicted multiple armed robber in custody. How does that justify all this? How many people in the black community have you actually spoken to to form this opinion of why people are marching? Before you ask I can quote how many and could even give you names if you wanted who in turn have spoken to other people and so on.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 06 Jun 20 12.13pm |
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Originally posted by Belmont
I would put in policy for the police for the good of the whole community, do you somehow thunk that the black community doesn't know there is an issue with knife crime. No. But there is an objection to stop and search. Unless you have stop and search and proper penalties, along with the longer term measures of community stuff, there will continue to be knife crime. This will help and stop a minority damaging things for the majority, which is kind of what you’re saying. All these things should be in debate anyway, and should have been anyway.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 06 Jun 20 12.18pm |
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Originally posted by Belmont
How many people in the black community have you actually spoken to to form this opinion of why people are marching? Before you ask I can quote how many and could even give you names if you wanted who in turn have spoken to other people and so on.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 06 Jun 20 12.18pm |
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Originally posted by Belmont
How many people in the black community have you actually spoken to to form this opinion of why people are marching? Before you ask I can quote how many and could even give you names if you wanted who in turn have spoken to other people and so on. I’d genuinely like to know why people are marching. No need for names. I expect their to be valid reasons why people marched, along with things nothing to do with Britain, or just because, as is usual with protests. Of course your acquaintances might all have valid reasons. I’m genuinely interested because, like I say, this is for debate and what’s at stake, rather than virtue signalling nonsense and middle class promises to be this or that (for a few days) before hypocrisy is back in full swing again.
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| Belmont 06 Jun 20 12.19pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
No. But there is an objection to stop and search. Unless you have stop and search and proper penalties, along with the longer term measures of community stuff, there will continue to be knife crime. This will help and stop a minority damaging things for the majority, which is kind of what you’re saying. All these things should be in debate anyway, and should have been anyway. Yes there is some objection within the black community but they are only a spokesman for themselves no one else as I am for myself and you are for yourself. I always get the impression (and of course I could be wrong) that when a question like that is asked people think because one black person has said something that means we all think the same way. Before you say anything I am not applying that to you it's a just a general observation.
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| Belmont 06 Jun 20 12.24pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Fair enough no I haven't been marching and my personal grievances are the grouse generalisations about the black community based on the actions of some, a fact you can understand growing up in south london, I grew up in south london and I can't understand it. Now you answer my question as fairs fair.
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