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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 22 Aug 18 11.55am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You're living proof of this site's tolerance for alternative opinions.

You refer to bigots yet it's you who has the intolerance and wants to ban people.

It's always the people who want to burn books that talk about others being bigots.

Is an apparent lack of self awareness, as demonstrated, willful or born of psychological issues?

Either way, it's disturbing.


 

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View Matov's Profile Matov Online Flag 22 Aug 18 12.07pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

The issue with the BBS is merely a reflection of a wider policy of mediocracy as the safest policy, as opposed to any genuine political conviction.

If I thought the BBS was genuinely left wing I might actually have some respect for how it was run and the decision to ban me.

But instead, it was just pathetic with no reason offered nor any public confirmation of their actions.

Essentially they now represent a wider Zeitgeist in which a fear of anything that might be labeled as 'racist' is deemed of far more important than actually discussing the issues involved.

And at the risk, with some justification, of being accused of hyperbole, the BBS is merely a minor manifestation of what happened up in Rotherham and so on.

The mass cover-up of the sexual abuse of vulnerable white working class girls was not done, in the main, by people who agreed with it but rather by people lacking the courage to actually face up to it because of the racial/religious aspects to it. Essentially a group think mentality that the grey people in our society tend to gravitate to. More pathetic than evil really and perhaps a reflection of a wider human weakness to desire approval rather than have a principle and be willing to stand up for it.

I read recently a claim that during the 1981 attempted military coup in Spain, during the attempt to take control of the Spanish Parliament only three politicians chose to remain on their feet as opposed to trying to cower on the floor. Two were prominent Francoists with the third being a leader of the Anti-Franco movement.

Says a lot. And I suspect that if a similar coup were attempted now, you might struggle to find a single politician willing to remain on their feet.

The West now has a leadership culture in which only the 'grey' people succeed. It will be the downfall of our civilisation.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 22 Aug 18 12.10pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

The issue with the BBS is merely a reflection of a wider policy of mediocracy as the safest policy, as opposed to any genuine political conviction.

If I thought the BBS was genuinely left wing I might actually have some respect for how it was run and the decision to ban me.

But instead, it was just pathetic with no reason offered nor any public confirmation of their actions.

Essentially they now represent a wider Zeitgeist in which a fear of anything that might be labeled as 'racist' is deemed of far more important than actually discussing the issues involved.

And at the risk, with some justification, of being accused of hyperbole, the BBS is merely a minor manifestation of what happened up in Rotherham and so on.

The mass cover-up of the sexual abuse of vulnerable white working class girls was not done, in the main, by people who agreed with it but rather by people lacking the courage to actually face up to it because of the racial/religious aspects to it. Essentially a group think mentality that the grey people in our society tend to gravitate to. More pathetic than evil really and perhaps a reflection of a wider human weakness to desire approval rather than have a principle and be willing to stand up for it.

I read recently a claim that during the 1981 attempted military coup in Spain, during the attempt to take control of the Spanish Parliament only three politicians chose to remain on their feet as opposed to trying to cower on the floor. Two were prominent Francoists with the third being a leader of the Anti-Franco movement.

Says a lot. And I suspect that if a similar coup were attempted now, you might struggle to find a single politician willing to remain on their feet.

The West now has a leadership culture in which only the 'grey' people succeed. It will be the downfall of our civilisation.

Great post.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 22 Aug 18 12.17pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

The issue with the BBS is merely a reflection of a wider policy of mediocracy as the safest policy, as opposed to any genuine political conviction.

If I thought the BBS was genuinely left wing I might actually have some respect for how it was run and the decision to ban me.

But instead, it was just pathetic with no reason offered nor any public confirmation of their actions.

Essentially they now represent a wider Zeitgeist in which a fear of anything that might be labeled as 'racist' is deemed of far more important than actually discussing the issues involved.

And at the risk, with some justification, of being accused of hyperbole, the BBS is merely a minor manifestation of what happened up in Rotherham and so on.

The mass cover-up of the sexual abuse of vulnerable white working class girls was not done, in the main, by people who agreed with it but rather by people lacking the courage to actually face up to it because of the racial/religious aspects to it. Essentially a group think mentality that the grey people in our society tend to gravitate to. More pathetic than evil really and perhaps a reflection of a wider human weakness to desire approval rather than have a principle and be willing to stand up for it.

I read recently a claim that during the 1981 attempted military coup in Spain, during the attempt to take control of the Spanish Parliament only three politicians chose to remain on their feet as opposed to trying to cower on the floor. Two were prominent Francoists with the third being a leader of the Anti-Franco movement.

Says a lot. And I suspect that if a similar coup were attempted now, you might struggle to find a single politician willing to remain on their feet.

The West now has a leadership culture in which only the 'grey' people succeed. It will be the downfall of our civilisation.

I have no respect for them at all. They are gutless cowards who should not be allowed to represent the football club.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (22 Aug 2018 12.17pm)

 

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View Matov's Profile Matov Online Flag 22 Aug 18 12.29pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I have no respect for them at all. They are gutless cowards who should not be allowed to represent the football club.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (22 Aug 2018 12.17pm)

To be fair the BBS is privately owned. I do not believe they receive any financial support from the club and whilst they did, for a while, have Parish posting on there it ended in tears if I remember correctly (I refused to contribute on that, believing that fan organisations should always remain fully independent of the club).

They can run it how they want, in the same way that you can express an opinion on that, but on the Right we need to be careful not to fall into the same trap of wanting people or organisations banned or hampered from continuing.

Had a falling out with some of my US chums over the issue of NFL players kneeling during the anthem. For me it should always be a matter of personal choice if you decide to honour an anthem or not. Yes, as fans then you can choose to boycott the sport but in terms of wanting to make it compulsory for players to respect any form of political opinion or expression is wrong.

The Right has to believe in freedom of expression/opinion/speech as much as possible because otherwise what is the point?


Edited by Matov (22 Aug 2018 12.30pm)

 

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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 22 Aug 18 12.33pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

F*cking hell, lads.

 


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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 22 Aug 18 12.36pm Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

I was speaking to a black guy at work and he thinks the problems in Britain stems from the Benifits systems.
Here me out.
A family nucleus is essential as proven since time began and the Benifit system among poor families is making alot of woman choose to have kids from multiple men and claim benefits.
It stands to reason if your un educated and can only get a minimum wage job life would be easier claiming benefits through your kids.

I have a friend who has been rinced when his Mrs dumped him with two kids, she has now left her second partner with another two kids getting money from two fathers and benefits.

These kids are being brought up without fathers and this needs to be addressed if we want to stop inner city gangs.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 22 Aug 18 12.51pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

To be fair the BBS is privately owned. I do not believe they receive any financial support from the club and whilst they did, for a while, have Parish posting on there it ended in tears if I remember correctly (I refused to contribute on that, believing that fan organisations should always remain fully independent of the club).

They can run it how they want, in the same way that you can express an opinion on that, but on the Right we need to be careful not to fall into the same trap of wanting people or organisations banned or hampered from continuing.

Had a falling out with some of my US chums over the issue of NFL players kneeling during the anthem. For me it should always be a matter of personal choice if you decide to honour an anthem or not. Yes, as fans then you can choose to boycott the sport but in terms of wanting to make it compulsory for players to respect any form of political opinion or expression is wrong.

The Right has to believe in freedom of expression/opinion/speech as much as possible because otherwise what is the point?


Edited by Matov (22 Aug 2018 12.30pm)

They can and they should be ashamed of how they do.
They represent the worst kind of hypocrites.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 22 Aug 18 12.57pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

I was speaking to a black guy at work and he thinks the problems in Britain stems from the Benifits systems.
Here me out.
A family nucleus is essential as proven since time began and the Benifit system among poor families is making alot of woman choose to have kids from multiple men and claim benefits.
It stands to reason if your un educated and can only get a minimum wage job life would be easier claiming benefits through your kids.

I have a friend who has been rinced when his Mrs dumped him with two kids, she has now left her second partner with another two kids getting money from two fathers and benefits.

These kids are being brought up without fathers and this needs to be addressed if we want to stop inner city gangs.

There is an element of truth to this.

However, to be fair to the working class.....there simply isn't the number of blue collar jobs out there that will support a family well.

You even get institutions like the Army acting like snobs now.....nurses need degrees.

The working class.....or should I say, the underclass are responsible for many ills......but they are also royally shafted.

The percent in them who genuinely want to improve themselves don't have an easy task in breaking the cycle.

 

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View Matov's Profile Matov Online Flag 22 Aug 18 1.24pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

There is an element of truth to this.

However, to be fair to the working class.....there simply isn't the number of blue collar jobs out there that will support a family well.

You even get institutions like the Army acting like snobs now.....nurses need degrees.

The working class.....or should I say, the underclass are responsible for many ills......but they are also royally shafted.

The percent in them who genuinely want to improve themselves don't have an easy task in breaking the cycle.

The distinction between the working and the welfare class is one that needs to be constantly stressed and the white working class also need to take ownership of the social pressures and problems they are presented with.

I guess you could blame the collapse of the power of the Trade Union movement for the dilution of the real political power that the WWC used to be able to collectively bring to the table and I know I have had to reassess my own anti-Union tendencies of late, conceding that perhaps the pendulum has swung far too much in the direction of the Management classes.

The real issue, in my opinion, is that Identity politics has essentially meant that the white working class have become an increasingly convenient scapegoat for a variety of political institutions with the reaction over the Brexit vote, when the WWC decided to get off its largely indifferent, at least to politics, arse and make the effort to vote has been incredible, and exposed the new divisions in our society.

It is essentially now loathed by almost all parts of our political and social establishment. And that will only become more and more negative as time passes. Yes, we are seeing flashes of the WWC actually starting to fight back and question their supposed betters but I genuinely fear that their apathy will only allow their opponents to gain far more of a stranglehold over their futures and might not wake up until it is to late.

Say what you want about this country's Islamic population but through its community cohesion, it has managed to offer up the votes that politicians genuinely respect with the Left quite happy to throw almost all of its principles to one side if it means it garners their political impact.

The WWC would rather play golf than take an interest in politics.

Edited by Matov (22 Aug 2018 1.25pm)

 

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Originally posted by Matov

The distinction between the working and the welfare class is one that needs to be constantly stressed and the white working class also need to take ownership of the social pressures and problems they are presented with.

I guess you could blame the collapse of the power of the Trade Union movement for the dilution of the real political power that the WWC used to be able to collectively bring to the table and I know I have had to reassess my own anti-Union tendencies of late, conceding that perhaps the pendulum has swung far too much in the direction of the Management classes.

The real issue, in my opinion, is that Identity politics has essentially meant that the white working class have become an increasingly convenient scapegoat for a variety of political institutions with the reaction over the Brexit vote, when the WWC decided to get off its largely indifferent, at least to politics, arse and make the effort to vote has been incredible, and exposed the new divisions in our society.

It is essentially now loathed by almost all parts of our political and social establishment. And that will only become more and more negative as time passes. Yes, we are seeing flashes of the WWC actually starting to fight back and question their supposed betters but I genuinely fear that their apathy will only allow their opponents to gain far more of a stranglehold over their futures and might not wake up until it is to late.

Say what you want about this country's Islamic population but through its community cohesion, it has managed to offer up the votes that politicians genuinely respect with the Left quite happy to throw almost all of its principles to one side if it means it garners their political impact.

The WWC would rather play golf than take an interest in politics.

Edited by Matov (22 Aug 2018 1.25pm)

Very true.

Most of the WWC have been raised away from identity politics. They have been sold the multicultural lie from their school days. They are raised to not view themselves as a group and to instinctively reject this idea.

I was one of them myself and viewed the idea of identity politics as distasteful and divisive.....Well, it is....it's only a basic truth. Still while it is a blunt instrument it is a statistically accurate one.

The normies who don't realise what's happening will just carry on in the same vein....to raise an objection is to be called horrible words like Nazi...it's the frog in water situation. If it's not your personal experience you can choose to ignore it.....if it's happening somewhere else you can pretend it's not coming to you.

Their children as adults are going to understand and see things differently because they won't have the 'flight' option and they will be a minority and they will begin to understand what that means in their own country.

Just as the boomer generation passed along a poisoned economic chalice this generation will pass on a differently poisoned chalice.


Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Aug 2018 2.03pm)

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 22 Aug 18 2.18pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

The BBS' loss is HOL's gain.

Some wonderfully articulate and thoughtful posts on here now.
I wish they were my own.

 

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