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View 7mins's Profile 7mins Flag In the bush 04 Jun 18 4.32pm Send a Private Message to 7mins Add 7mins as a friend

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It just seems worse when it’s women.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 04 Jun 18 4.40pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

The answer to your question is no.

You cannot negotiate with people who hold there views you can only surrender. And even if we did that ISIS has made it clear they would still kill all us infidels.

However we can contain them and foil their plots we can also educate our young people that this is a death cult.

It is sad that a young woman feels this way we just have to hold the line.

France has a lot of anger because many do not have jobs are are shunned by the rest of the country. We cannot allow that to happen here and we must integrate them, easier said then done of course.

We may not defeat it but I think in time it will reduce in significance.However this relies on the government (any government) having the right policies.

 


One more point

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 04 Jun 18 4.45pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Not on our current trajectory.

The numbers on watch lists are only going to increase. What I worry about is when they figure out how to avoid being caught.....what was it? 12 broken up attack plans in the last year?

It's probably like the gun debate in the US....too far gone to remedy.

The politicians gave you this.

 


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View Cucking Funt's Profile Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 04 Jun 18 7.10pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Globally, possibly not. But here in the UK, an aggressive policy of rapid detention, internment and deportation might minimise or at least lessen the risk.

Edited by Cucking Funt (04 Jun 2018 7.20pm)

 


Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 04 Jun 18 8.02pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

It will take a couple or more centuries to stop totally.
This being in comparison to previous religions taking so long to realise it won't work.
You cannot bully people into having your opinion.
Also islam is about 400 years younger than Christianity so that's where my sum comes from.
None of us or any known kin will see it sadly.

 

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.TUX. Flag 04 Jun 18 9.58pm

We invented it.

 


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View Bert the Head's Profile Bert the Head Flag Epsom 05 Jun 18 12.10am Send a Private Message to Bert the Head Add Bert the Head as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

The answer to your question is no.

You cannot negotiate with people who hold there views you can only surrender. And even if we did that ISIS has made it clear they would still kill all us infidels.

However we can contain them and foil their plots we can also educate our young people that this is a death cult.

It is sad that a young woman feels this way we just have to hold the line.

France has a lot of anger because many do not have jobs are are shunned by the rest of the country. We cannot allow that to happen here and we must integrate them, easier said then done of course.

We may not defeat it but I think in time it will reduce in significance.However this relies on the government (any government) having the right policies.

What a load of old defeatist bollcks

The west (Us) has always colluded/negotiated with radical Islam as long as it suits us. We continually support radical Islam against internal secular democratic movements because democratic movements want to rule their country in their interests and we want to hire any guns available to rule it in our interests.

Please read stuff (other than the s***ty papers) before you post stuff.

I recommend Chomsky. Honestly have a look.


 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 05 Jun 18 5.04am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Bert the Head

What a load of old defeatist bollcks

The west (Us) has always colluded/negotiated with radical Islam as long as it suits us. We continually support radical Islam against internal secular democratic movements because democratic movements want to rule their country in their interests and we want to hire any guns available to rule it in our interests.

Please read stuff (other than the s***ty papers) before you post stuff.

I recommend Chomsky. Honestly have a look.

Every single state on this god's earth operates in its own self interests.....or in oppressive non democratic states in the interests of its elites.

It isn't a criticism to state this. This is a fact of human nature.

Hence highlighting the reality that democratic states in the generalised anglosphere will negotiate with, trade with or whatever with states that it is highly opposed to is just a statement of fact.

In the case of Saudi for example it's a case of 'the enemy of my enemy'. The US can be criticised for just how much it is favouring one foreign state over another....but essentially it's a judgement with pros and cons.

All states work with other states if they regard it as within its self interest.

I heard a couple of Chomsky's political lectures and I came away with the impression that he's bright but not very wise. Also totally unrealistic on human nature. Chomsky has some interesting views on economics but essentially he's is a left wing libertarian. A west led by Chomsky would fall.....well it's going to fall anyway given the short termism of most of its politicians but led by him it would fall quite quickly led by his 'pacifist platitudes'.

I'm interested in a western future for my children and for my children's children.......So Chomsky can stay in his intellectual ivory tower. A tower that he can only live in because of the kind of people he detests enabled it.

I recommend Niall Ferguson.

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Jun 2018 5.09am)

 


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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 05 Jun 18 6.11am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Ferguson has way more to say than Chomsky. The latter whines about what could be / should be.

Ferguson uses way better methodology.

 


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Park Road Flag 05 Jun 18 8.06am

"The worst of beasts, in our view, are the followers of Allah—those who believe in Islam. They’re the ones you make treaties with, but they break those treaties every time because they have no fear of the law.”

The statement, of course, is blatantly bigoted hate speech against Muslims. But I didn't write it. It's actually a passage from the Quran, verses 8:55-56, with references to disbelievers replaced by “followers of Allah” and “those who believe in Islam.”

Richard Dawkins

Edited by Park Road (05 Jun 2018 8.09am)

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 05 Jun 18 8.53am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Ferguson has way more to say than Chomsky. The latter whines about what could be / should be.

Ferguson uses way better methodology.

Seconded my man.

 


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View doi209's Profile doi209 Flag Fighting for the weak and innocent... 05 Jun 18 9.50am Send a Private Message to doi209 Add doi209 as a friend

To be honest, I thought this subject was about another match of the pre-season tour to Denmark.

 

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