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View Nobbybm's Profile Nobbybm Flag Dartford 01 Aug 18 1.02pm Send a Private Message to Nobbybm Add Nobbybm as a friend

Originally posted by bicycle repair man

It's an "undeniable fact" that in the days before all seating hooliganism was putting people off coming to football,and attendances were falling.
Now with the advent of seating and better facilities most games in the Premier League sell out.

The Emirates has double the crowd we do & there's sod all atmosphere there. Crowd numbers mean nothing is they're quiet/uninvolved.

 


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View Mwncisee's Profile Mwncisee Flag Middlesbrough 01 Aug 18 1.15pm Send a Private Message to Mwncisee Add Mwncisee as a friend

Originally posted by Nobbybm

The Emirates has double the crowd we do & there's sod all atmosphere there. Crowd numbers mean nothing is they're quiet/uninvolved.

They mean revenue for the club that can be invested in the team.

 

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View Isley46's Profile Isley46 Flag Sanderstead 01 Aug 18 1.25pm Send a Private Message to Isley46 Add Isley46 as a friend

Originally posted by c_block_shedevil

When safe standing comes in and the owners decide to make blocks D,E and F standing. Will you fight against it?

I can guarantee you it will be those blocks.

And there will be no compensation on the table this time.

Edited by c_block_shedevil (31 Jul 2018 8.55pm)

If it ever does and they want 'safe standing' in those blocks then it will have to be all of the lower Holmesdale as safe standing or redevelop and 'sink' those blocks so head height is the same as someone sitting in the other adjacent blocks. Obstruction of view of the pitch (by standing people) will lose more people from attending than anything previously discussed.

I remember standing on terraces and it's not something I would want to go back to - many people only stood on the terrace as it was half the price of sitting in the 'stands'!

 

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View Isley46's Profile Isley46 Flag Sanderstead 01 Aug 18 1.37pm Send a Private Message to Isley46 Add Isley46 as a friend

Originally posted by Mwncisee

I really wish there could be more consideration between fans. We re all supporting the same team, part of the same family.

However it really upsets me to see fans having a go at others because they feel everyone should stand. I've had a few `minor` run ins with people who seem o be part of the HF at away games (the only ones I can feasibly go to).

I can understand they want to stand and I can even respect that. However, I often go to matches with my father, ow over 70 he has supported Palace loyally since the 1950's. He is not disabled and doesn't want to be treated as such. But, he is unable to stand for 90 minutes plus anymore. We buy tickets for seats and are forced to stand on occasion because people around want to stand.

We have asked people to sit so he can see the game, and in fairness sometimes people do.
However, we have often been given dirty looks for doing so or even had comments about our lack of patriotism or support because we don't want to stand. This has actually lead to us not going to matches as much anymore and a sense on anxiety when we do. It saddens me that fellow fans of our club, HF or not and like any of these things it's not `all of them` cannot understand and respect the consequences of their behavior.

This ^^^

Same here but we go with the kids (age 11 and 12) who don't really want to go anymore as they end up behind someone who stands (as others are standing in front of them) and can't see most of the game even if they end up standing on their seats.....

 

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View Frickin Saweet's Profile Frickin Saweet Flag South Cronx 01 Aug 18 1.50pm Send a Private Message to Frickin Saweet Add Frickin Saweet as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Seating destroyed the atmosphere in English football. I remember it happening. It’s an undeniable fact.

also we did have a black third kit. Perhaps the former HF idolised our iconic black kit in the same peverse way that people honour Shefki Kuqi and worship the sash

 

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View AERO's Profile AERO Flag 01 Aug 18 2.33pm Send a Private Message to AERO Add AERO as a friend

If the fanatics are true Supporters,Why could they have waited for new stand to be built ? when they then could have probably had there pick where to congregate

 

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View c_block_shedevil's Profile c_block_shedevil Flag London 01 Aug 18 5.39pm Send a Private Message to c_block_shedevil Add c_block_shedevil as a friend

Originally posted by est1905

Completely different situation. Moving fans to accomodate other fans? Its unfair and its illogical and its not for the betterment of the cub but for the convenience of a bunch of spotty teenagers with flags. So no, it wouldn't be

According to the post from the BBS it was an open invite to all those that wanted to stand, not just spotty teens or middle aged has-beens.

 


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View c_block_shedevil's Profile c_block_shedevil Flag London 01 Aug 18 5.41pm Send a Private Message to c_block_shedevil Add c_block_shedevil as a friend

Originally posted by martin2412

These people only want to stand up so that they can act at being the rebel. As soon as anyone says something to them they climb up their own ar5es.

Until such time there are standing areas in top tier football stadiums, either sit down or feck off to somewhere like Bromley or Dulwich Hamlet. They'll welcome you.

Wanting to stand during a game means you're a rebel? Words fail me!

 


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View c_block_shedevil's Profile c_block_shedevil Flag London 01 Aug 18 5.42pm Send a Private Message to c_block_shedevil Add c_block_shedevil as a friend

Originally posted by Isley46

If it ever does and they want 'safe standing' in those blocks then it will have to be all of the lower Holmesdale as safe standing or redevelop and 'sink' those blocks so head height is the same as someone sitting in the other adjacent blocks. Obstruction of view of the pitch (by standing people) will lose more people from attending than anything previously discussed.

I remember standing on terraces and it's not something I would want to go back to - many people only stood on the terrace as it was half the price of sitting in the 'stands'!

Agreed. I would personally convert the whole lower tier as standing too.

 


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View daven's Profile daven Flag Hailsham 01 Aug 18 6.17pm Send a Private Message to daven Add daven as a friend

Before we get too carried away with new standing arrangements could we remember that standing at premier league games is still not allowed.

 

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michaelpearce Flag grays 01 Aug 18 6.19pm

Originally posted by c_block_shedevil

According to the post from the BBS it was an open invite to all those that wanted to stand, not just spotty teens or middle aged has-beens.

please i spent most of my time standing so did everyone else back in the 70s and 80s. but we are talking about .004% of the attendance and we are making it a big issue because they wanted tobe moved to the center,
once a palace fan always a palace fan ,you dont spit your dummy out of the pram because you cant go were you want,god this lot couldnt fight there way out of a wet paper bag, let alone take on the boys from the old school so time to drop the subject its boring

 

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View Ginger Pubic Wig's Profile Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 01 Aug 18 6.19pm Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Seating destroyed the atmosphere in English football. I remember it happening. It’s an undeniable fact.

generally true but i also think the deterioration at Palace, while significant, is less than at many other clubs. I mean anfield, goodison and old Trafford. those places were extraordinarily loud. now they're genuinely on a par/ often worse than us.

 


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