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Goal Machine The Cronx 23 Aug 18 6.51pm
Originally posted by est1905 I never wallowed in anything because I dont like them. Why would I be proud of or enjoy credit for something that I dont even like? You talk as if the HF are the envy of the football world. You watch too much Sky and BT sport my friend. The majority of friends/aquaintences that support other teams opinions of them range from merely ok to a bit cringy. One Arsenal supporting mate summed it up perfectly. A bunch of spotty teenagers with hankerchieves over their faces trying to be 'Ultras' like Lazio or Torino. Pathetic and embarrassing. Thats his opinion not mine but I do see where he is coming from. But suppose for one moment you are right (Far from it) and everyone is unanimous that they were soooo great. What would you suggest? running after them begging them to come back? Pleading maybe? Prehaps you might even turn on the old water works? That might pull on the heart strings? They're gone. MOVE ON!
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The Cronx 23 Aug 18 6.51pm

Originally posted by est1905

I never wallowed in anything because I dont like them. Why would I be proud of or enjoy credit for something that I dont even like?
You talk as if the HF are the envy of the football world. You watch too much Sky and BT sport my friend. The majority of friends/aquaintences that support other teams opinions of them range from merely ok to a bit cringy. One Arsenal supporting mate summed it up perfectly. A bunch of spotty teenagers with hankerchieves over their faces trying to be 'Ultras' like Lazio or Torino. Pathetic and embarrassing. Thats his opinion not mine but I do see where he is coming from.

But suppose for one moment you are right (Far from it) and everyone is unanimous that they were soooo great. What would you suggest? running after them begging them to come back? Pleading maybe? Prehaps you might even turn on the old water works? That might pull on the heart strings?
They're gone. MOVE ON!

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Dan1994 Wallington 23 Aug 18 6.58pm
Originally posted by est1905 I never wallowed in anything because I dont like them. Why would I be proud of or enjoy credit for something that I dont even like? You talk as if the HF are the envy of the football world. You watch too much Sky and BT sport my friend. The majority of friends/aquaintences that support other teams opinions of them range from merely ok to a bit cringy. One Arsenal supporting mate summed it up perfectly. A bunch of spotty teenagers with hankerchieves over their faces trying to be 'Ultras' like Lazio or Torino. Pathetic and embarrassing. Thats his opinion not mine but I do see where he is coming from. But suppose for one moment you are right (Far from it) and everyone is unanimous that they were soooo great. What would you suggest? running after them begging them to come back? Pleading maybe? Prehaps you might even turn on the old water works? That might pull on the heart strings? They're gone. MOVE ON! So you do agree with him then? Fact is they produced one of the best atmospheres in the country and set a precedent for our fans to hit in their demise, and set a trend for our away games aswell. It is not true that all fans think they're a negative thing - there are plenty fans of other clubs who think the noise they bring is excellent and a positive thing for English football. Don't get me wrong, I didn't agree with everything they did. From what I've heard from other fans of other clubs, the only issue they have is the fact they call themselves ultras and dress in black. If them calling themselves ultras and dressing in black is why anyone dislikes them, they're missing the point of them, and that's their problem. Fact is English football, in terms of atmosphere, has been on the decline for years, and to be honest, I find it quite sad that there are people who still cling onto the old terrace culture, which died many, many years ago. Whilst instead some lads (as are at several clubs like Boro, Lincoln etc.) are trying to rectify the problem, but are slagged off because they wear black and call themselves ultras, because for some reason if you wore another colour and just renamed yourself to Holmesdale Boys (or something to that effect), that makes all the difference. Agree on the final point, though, we should move on. Edited by Dan1994 (23 Aug 2018 7.04pm) [Link]
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Wallington 23 Aug 18 6.58pm

Originally posted by est1905

I never wallowed in anything because I dont like them. Why would I be proud of or enjoy credit for something that I dont even like?
You talk as if the HF are the envy of the football world. You watch too much Sky and BT sport my friend. The majority of friends/aquaintences that support other teams opinions of them range from merely ok to a bit cringy. One Arsenal supporting mate summed it up perfectly. A bunch of spotty teenagers with hankerchieves over their faces trying to be 'Ultras' like Lazio or Torino. Pathetic and embarrassing. Thats his opinion not mine but I do see where he is coming from.

So you do agree with him then? Fact is they produced one of the best atmospheres in the country and set a precedent for our fans to hit in their demise, and set a trend for our away games aswell. It is not true that all fans think they're a negative thing - there are plenty fans of other clubs who think the noise they bring is excellent and a positive thing for English football.

Don't get me wrong, I didn't agree with everything they did. From what I've heard from other fans of other clubs, the only issue they have is the fact they call themselves ultras and dress in black. If them calling themselves ultras and dressing in black is why anyone dislikes them, they're missing the point of them, and that's their problem.

Fact is English football, in terms of atmosphere, has been on the decline for years, and to be honest, I find it quite sad that there are people who still cling onto the old terrace culture, which died many, many years ago. Whilst instead some lads (as are at several clubs like Boro, Lincoln etc.) are trying to rectify the problem, but are slagged off because they wear black and call themselves ultras, because for some reason if you wore another colour and just renamed yourself to Holmesdale Boys (or something to that effect), that makes all the difference.

Agree on the final point, though, we should move on.

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Goal Machine The Cronx 23 Aug 18 7.01pm
Originally posted by est1905 I never wallowed in anything because I dont like them. Why would I be proud of or enjoy credit for something that I dont even like? You talk as if the HF are the envy of the football world. You watch too much Sky and BT sport my friend. The majority of friends/aquaintences that support other teams opinions of them range from merely ok to a bit cringy. One Arsenal supporting mate summed it up perfectly. A bunch of spotty teenagers with hankerchieves over their faces trying to be 'Ultras' like Lazio or Torino. Pathetic and embarrassing. Thats his opinion not mine but I do see where he is coming from. But suppose for one moment you are right (Far from it) and everyone is unanimous that they were soooo great. What would you suggest? running after them begging them to come back? Pleading maybe? Prehaps you might even turn on the old water works? That might pull on the heart strings? They're gone. MOVE ON! Quite frankly I find it hard to accept any criticism from an Arsenal fan. No doubt sits on his hands and shouts abuse for 90 minutes with the occasional chant of ‘we’re by far the greatest team.....’ I find that pathetic and embarrassing. Perhaps not you, but there are many Palace fans who support in silence and wallow in the glory of ‘best fans in the league’ when the reality is it’s the HF who deserve the credit. You can see from this thread that 90% will miss them. As a gold member I’m less enthusiastic about going now as for me the enjoyment is atmosphere over what’s on the pitch.
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The Cronx 23 Aug 18 7.01pm

Originally posted by est1905

Quite frankly I find it hard to accept any criticism from an Arsenal fan. No doubt sits on his hands and shouts abuse for 90 minutes with the occasional chant of ‘we’re by far the greatest team.....’ I find that pathetic and embarrassing.

Perhaps not you, but there are many Palace fans who support in silence and wallow in the glory of ‘best fans in the league’ when the reality is it’s the HF who deserve the credit.

You can see from this thread that 90% will miss them. As a gold member I’m less enthusiastic about going now as for me the enjoyment is atmosphere over what’s on the pitch.

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spartakev2 Anerley 23 Aug 18 7.40pm
Originally posted by Goal Machine Quite frankly I find it hard to accept any criticism from an Arsenal fan. No doubt sits on his hands and shouts abuse for 90 minutes with the occasional chant of ‘we’re by far the greatest team.....’ I find that pathetic and embarrassing. Perhaps not you, but there are many Palace fans who support in silence and wallow in the glory of ‘best fans in the league’ when the reality is it’s the HF who deserve the credit. You can see from this thread that 90% will miss them. As a gold member I’m less enthusiastic about going now as for me the enjoyment is atmosphere over what’s on the pitch. Really. So you'd be quite happy to watch a s**t game ad long as thd atmosphere is good?. Personally for me its sll about the football. When I talk to people about the game, I discuss the match, not the atmosphere.
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Anerley 23 Aug 18 7.40pm

Originally posted by Goal Machine

Perhaps not you, but there are many Palace fans who support in silence and wallow in the glory of ‘best fans in the league’ when the reality is it’s the HF who deserve the credit.

You can see from this thread that 90% will miss them. As a gold member I’m less enthusiastic about going now as for me the enjoyment is atmosphere over what’s on the pitch.

Really. So you'd be quite happy to watch a s**t game ad long as thd atmosphere is good?. Personally for me its sll about the football. When I talk to people about the game, I discuss the match, not the atmosphere.

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BarEagle Monmouth 23 Aug 18 8.01pm
Originally posted by spartakev2 Really. So you'd be quite happy to watch a s**t game ad long as thd atmosphere is good?. Personally for me its sll about the football. When I talk to people about the game, I discuss the match, not the atmosphere. Behave. Palace stood out for the atmosphere and Adrenalin. It’s just Joe average boring mid table wallowing with the others and potentially nothing different. I for one am rather dissapointed; many, many others are too. In fact from what I can see approximately 85% at least see it as a complete negative.
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Monmouth 23 Aug 18 8.01pm

Originally posted by spartakev2

Behave.

Palace stood out for the atmosphere and Adrenalin. It’s just Joe average boring mid table wallowing with the others and potentially nothing different.

I for one am rather dissapointed; many, many others are too. In fact from what I can see approximately 85% at least see it as a complete negative.

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Goal Machine The Cronx 23 Aug 18 8.10pm
Originally posted by spartakev2 Really. So you'd be quite happy to watch a s*t game ad long as thd atmosphere is good?. Personally for me its sll about the football. When I talk to people about the game, I discuss the match, not the atmosphere. Yes. 100%. Hence why I go to watch teams like Clapton FC in the Essex League (although I’m not too keen on the left wing ultra stance) and matches in Germany, Poland and Austria. So yes, I’d take a few relegations in exchange for a rocking Selhurst every week in an heart beat. A sht game with a good atmosphere beats a good game with a sh*t atmosphere.
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The Cronx 23 Aug 18 8.10pm

Originally posted by spartakev2

Yes. 100%. Hence why I go to watch teams like Clapton FC in the Essex League (although I’m not too keen on the left wing ultra stance) and matches in Germany, Poland and Austria. So yes, I’d take a few relegations in exchange for a rocking Selhurst every week in an heart beat.

A sh*t game with a good atmosphere beats a good game with a sh*t atmosphere.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 23 Aug 18 8.26pm
Originally posted by Goal Machine Yes. 100%. Hence why I go to watch teams like Clapton FC in the Essex League (although I’m not too keen on the left wing ultra stance) and matches in Germany, Poland and Austria. So yes, I’d take a few relegations in exchange for a rocking Selhurst every week in an heart beat. A sht game with a good atmosphere beats a good game with a sht atmosphere. A few relegations? Fvck me, Charlton it AFC Wimbledon aren’t that far away. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 23 Aug 18 8.26pm

Originally posted by Goal Machine

A sh*t game with a good atmosphere beats a good game with a sh*t atmosphere.

A few relegations? Fvck me, Charlton it AFC Wimbledon aren’t that far away.

COYP

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spartakev2 Anerley 23 Aug 18 8.28pm
Originally posted by Goal Machine Yes. 100%. Hence why I go to watch teams like Clapton FC in the Essex League (although I’m not too keen on the left wing ultra stance) and matches in Germany, Poland and Austria. So yes, I’d take a few relegations in exchange for a rocking Selhurst every week in an heart beat. A sht game with a good atmosphere beats a good game with a sht atmosphere. I find that an amazing statement. But each to their own.
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Anerley 23 Aug 18 8.28pm

Originally posted by Goal Machine

Yes. 100%. Hence why I go to watch teams like Clapton FC in the Essex League (although I’m not too keen on the left wing ultra stance) and matches in Germany, Poland and Austria. So yes, I’d take a few relegations in exchange for a rocking Selhurst every week in an heart beat.

A sh*t game with a good atmosphere beats a good game with a sh*t atmosphere.

I find that an amazing statement. But each to their own.

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Rachid Rachid Rachid 23 Aug 18 8.48pm
The atmosphere on Monday wasn't as good as with the HF but if they don't want do it any more so be it. If their continuation was so dependent on moving knowing that they would displace and upset a lot of fellow fans and force most of the lower holmesdale to stand in the process then it's probably for the best.
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The atmosphere on Monday wasn't as good as with the HF but if they don't want do it any more so be it.

If their continuation was so dependent on moving knowing that they would displace and upset a lot of fellow fans and force most of the lower holmesdale to stand in the process then it's probably for the best.

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Henry of Peckham Eton Mess 23 Aug 18 9.32pm
Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid The atmosphere on Monday wasn't as good as with the HF but if they don't want do it any more so be it. If their continuation was so dependent on moving knowing that they would displace and upset a lot of fellow fans and force most of the lower holmesdale to stand in the process then it's probably for the best. Yes, it was always good to have them leading the chants ... but that doesn't give them the right to push out fellow supporters. Denial is not just a river in Egypt
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Eton Mess 23 Aug 18 9.32pm

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Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

The atmosphere on Monday wasn't as good as with the HF but if they don't want do it any more so be it.

Yes, it was always good to have them leading the chants ... but that doesn't give them the right to push out fellow supporters.

Denial is not just a river in Egypt

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c_block_shedevil London 23 Aug 18 9.54pm
Originally posted by est1905 I never wallowed in anything because I dont like them. Why would I be proud of or enjoy credit for something that I dont even like? You talk as if the HF are the envy of the football world. You watch too much Sky and BT sport my friend. The majority of friends/aquaintences that support other teams opinions of them range from merely ok to a bit cringy. One Arsenal supporting mate summed it up perfectly. A bunch of spotty teenagers with hankerchieves over their faces trying to be 'Ultras' like Lazio or Torino. Pathetic and embarrassing. Thats his opinion not mine but I do see where he is coming from. But suppose for one moment you are right (Far from it) and everyone is unanimous that they were soooo great. What would you suggest? running after them begging them to come back? Pleading maybe? Prehaps you might even turn on the old water works? That might pull on the heart strings? They're gone. MOVE ON! An Arsenal fan.... Lol probably the biggest jokes and embarrassments in the league. Total laughing stock. Says more about you to be honest. I'm tough. I'm ambitious. I know exactly what I want. If that makes me a bitch, I'm OK with that.
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Originally posted by est1905

An Arsenal fan.... Lol probably the biggest jokes and embarrassments in the league. Total laughing stock.

Says more about you to be honest.

I'm tough. I'm ambitious. I know exactly what I want. If that makes me a bitch, I'm OK with that.

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c_block_shedevil London 23 Aug 18 9.56pm
Originally posted by spartakev2 Really. So you'd be quite happy to watch a s**t game ad long as thd atmosphere is good?. Personally for me its sll about the football. When I talk to people about the game, I discuss the match, not the atmosphere. How do you think people got through the 80s with big Mal and successive relegations? I'm tough. I'm ambitious. I know exactly what I want. If that makes me a bitch, I'm OK with that.
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London 23 Aug 18 9.56pm

Originally posted by spartakev2

How do you think people got through the 80s with big Mal and successive relegations?

I'm tough. I'm ambitious. I know exactly what I want. If that makes me a bitch, I'm OK with that.

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