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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 28 Jun 19 9.47pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

So we are compounding bad decisions with more bad decisions.

I get it.

There needs to be a way out of it, and again, how do you think we’ll address troubles on the pitch with a net budget of £10 mil or under?

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 28 Jun 19 10.07pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

There needs to be a way out of it, and again, how do you think we’ll address troubles on the pitch with a net budget of £10 mil or under?

If we are relegated, how good do think this solution will look?

 

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Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 28 Jun 19 10.12pm Send a Private Message to Vaibow Add Vaibow as a friend

It's obvious that we are not made of money, the american investors are not coughing up and i guess why should they when they don't have final say.... they want to do things their way, it isn't happening and they want out. It's an embaressing situation really.

We need to forget AWB ever happened, he was an anomaly - we need to be looking at upgrading Ward - so what kind of right back would we be looking at and how much, most of us would look at 15 mil would be seen as great, considering what Tomkins cost us and the way he adapted. So we spend that and Ward is replaced - we then have 30 mil in the bank left over. Ok, we can look at left back.... using Schlupp as the back up and again spend 15 for a decent/promising left back - that's 15 mil left. Not to take into account what the sell of PVA would get us.

Ok, so we tighten up our defense which has been above average in my opinion on a consistent level. We then have some money left over to negotiate with. We have Benteke, Wickham and Ayew i believe as the options. Now, selling Benteke at a loss, let's say we 12 for him, that allows us to spend around 20 on attack.

Not bad hey? all from selling a player that came out of no where and wasn't part of the plan, never was...

Don't even get me started on Wilf.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 28 Jun 19 10.27pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

If we are relegated, how good do think this solution will look?

If we cannot score and a budget of £10 mil or 50 pence do you think we’ll survive?

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 28 Jun 19 10.42pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

If we cannot score and a budget of £10 mil or 50 pence do you think we’ll survive?

You are supposing that we will sign better players than we have which will be difficult if we need the AWB money to pay the bills.

Which way do you want it?

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 28 Jun 19 10.48pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You are supposing that we will sign better players than we have which will be difficult if we need the AWB money to pay the bills.

Which way do you want it?

Well if we’re losing £35 mil per year then some bills need paying.

This discussion could go on until August.

We haven’t sold many in 7 seasons by we’ve spent shed loads. You prefer to ignore that. Fair enough. I’m tempted to stay at home like you, but because Roy’s football is boring, not because I think we’ll be relegated. Good night.

 


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lefty27 Flag ipswich 28 Jun 19 11.25pm Send a Private Message to lefty27 Add lefty27 as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Well if we’re losing £35 mil per year then some bills need paying.

This discussion could go on until August.

We haven’t sold many in 7 seasons by we’ve spent shed loads. You prefer to ignore that. Fair enough. I’m tempted to stay at home like you, but because Roy’s football is boring, not because I think we’ll be relegated. Good night.

We aren’t losing 35 million per year. We made a profit before player trading. We made a loss in 17/18 because we bought and didn’t sell and had changes in manager. I really think the financial state of the club is being blown out of all proportion.

 

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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 28 Jun 19 11.26pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Well if we’re losing £35 mil per year then some bills need paying.

This discussion could go on until August.

We haven’t sold many in 7 seasons by we’ve spent shed loads. You prefer to ignore that. Fair enough. I’m tempted to stay at home like you, but because Roy’s football is boring, not because I think we’ll be relegated. Good night.

Hodgsonball - AWB / Wilf = relegation.

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 28 Jun 19 11.59pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by lefty27

We aren’t losing 35 million per year. We made a profit before player trading. We made a loss in 17/18 because we bought and didn’t sell and had changes in manager. I really think the financial state of the club is being blown out of all proportion.

The manager compensation costs are a few million tops, and the pills and Allardyce compensation packages absorb Pardew and FDB’s.

You’ve just said because we bought and didn’t sell, which means we have to sell to have a budget then, and seeing as our net spend last season was kouyate at £10 mil I think it backs that up.

I’v been a harsh critic of Parish but believing that we can continue with the player costs we have, including £30 mil players and players on £100-130k with the revenue we have and and an attendance revenue in the relegation zone I think some need to get real.

The errors have been made in previous windows and with poor scouting and thinking we didn’t need cover and then inevitably spend more anyway in January.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (29 Jun 2019 12.06am)

 


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TheExpatEagle Flag 29 Jun 19 12.55am Send a Private Message to TheExpatEagle Add TheExpatEagle as a friend

It's a bad deal all around.

Parish wanted £60m. We got £45m + £5m
Parish wanted 25% Wilf clause dropped. They said no.
We didn't need to sell, player said he want to go so we sold.

AWB was on £10k is now on £80k but most players signed for over $40m are on £200k. Walker at Man City, Benteke, Sakho even Cabaye was on more when we got him for £10m.

AWB is a pretty poor wage deal considering.

Man United are the winners. Parish backed down, AWB accepted less than he deserved. That's my summary.

 

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Wilbraham413 Flag 29 Jun 19 1.06am Send a Private Message to Wilbraham413 Add Wilbraham413 as a friend

Happy for AWB, sad for us.

How many new Sorloths can we buy for £50M?

 


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NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 29 Jun 19 1.10am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by TheExpatEagle

It's a bad deal all around.

Parish wanted £60m. We got £45m + £5m
Parish wanted 25% Wilf clause dropped. They said no.
We didn't need to sell, player said he want to go so we sold.

AWB was on £10k is now on £80k but most players signed for over m are on £200k. Walker at Man City, Benteke, Sakho even Cabaye was on more when we got him for £10m.

AWB is a pretty poor wage deal considering.

Man United are the winners. Parish backed down, AWB accepted less than he deserved. That's my summary.

That's one of the major bones of contention on this thread.

I think the club needed to generate funds.

AWB was fairly passive in all this really. I got the impression that he was quite happy to do another year with Palace ( he was reported as saying as much ) until it looked as if Palace were willing to sell. Then he said he was in favour of moving and negotiations got serious at that point.

As for his wages, who cares what he will earn - not our business. But if he does well I expect him to get a pay rise anyway. offered improved terms

 


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