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View Palace Passion's Profile Palace Passion Flag Bromley, South London 27 Dec 18 11.46pm Send a Private Message to Palace Passion Add Palace Passion as a friend

Why not make a bit for French striker Maupay? He's quick, scores goals, gets plenty of assists and can play as a striker, attacking midfielder or a winger. His style of play reminds me of Jermain Defoe except he's a better passer and only 22.

Thoughts?

 


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View Booted Eagle's Profile Booted Eagle Flag Bristol 05 Jan 19 5.25pm Send a Private Message to Booted Eagle Add Booted Eagle as a friend

Won and scored the penalty winner in the Cup today. Hoping that he didn't feature at all suggesting a potential move particularly to Palace. Fit and in form.

From the BBC website :

"This season, only Harry Kane (25) and Mo Salah (23) have been involved in more goals in all competitions among players in the top four tiers of English football than Neal Maupay for Brentford (22 - 16 goals, six assists)."

Edited by Booted Eagle (05 Jan 2019 5.30pm)

 


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View Curlyeagle 2's Profile Curlyeagle 2 Flag Crowborogh 06 Jan 19 8.23am Send a Private Message to Curlyeagle 2 Add Curlyeagle 2 as a friend

Originally posted by Booted Eagle

Won and scored the penalty winner in the Cup today. Hoping that he didn't feature at all suggesting a potential move particularly to Palace. Fit and in form.

From the BBC website :

"This season, only Harry Kane (25) and Mo Salah (23) have been involved in more goals in all competitions among players in the top four tiers of English football than Neal Maupay for Brentford (22 - 16 goals, six assists)."

Edited by Booted Eagle (05 Jan 2019 5.30pm)

Maupay would certainly be no more of a gamble than some of the others we have been linked with. He would offer the team a different alternative to the likes of Benteke, Sorloth and Wickham. Quick, can score all kinds of goals and from what I’ve seen of him a real threat in and around the 18 yard box.

 

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View Booted Eagle's Profile Booted Eagle Flag Bristol 06 Jan 19 11.28am Send a Private Message to Booted Eagle Add Booted Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Curlyeagle 2

Maupay would certainly be no more of a gamble than some of the others we have been linked with. He would offer the team a different alternative to the likes of Benteke, Sorloth and Wickham. Quick, can score all kinds of goals and from what I’ve seen of him a real threat in and around the 18 yard box.

Agree and has a good number of assists as well.

 


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View DutchEagleJohan's Profile DutchEagleJohan Flag Vlissingen, Netherlands 06 Jan 19 2.31pm Send a Private Message to DutchEagleJohan Add DutchEagleJohan as a friend

Guess the question would be how much it would take to get him. Considering what we paid for Sorloth, West Ham paid for Hugill, Bournemouth just paid for Solanke I would not be surprised that figure to top 20m.

 

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View chris123's Profile chris123 Flag hove actually 06 Jan 19 2.49pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by DutchEagleJohan

Guess the question would be how much it would take to get him. Considering what we paid for Sorloth, West Ham paid for Hugill, Bournemouth just paid for Solanke I would not be surprised that figure to top 20m.

Maybe - I think we should get him - Brentford are a seling club, it's part of their business model. Scores with both feet and his head.

 

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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 07 Jan 19 12.57am Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by Curlyeagle 2

Maupay would certainly be no more of a gamble than some of the others we have been linked with.

Gambles are respective of the price you pay.

You seem to suggest that he would cost the same amount as the others we're linked with.

I like him all right and I think that everyone does, but I think that the ship has sailed in his case. He should have been taken since he was a goalscorer in the French second division. I don't want to brag, but if I had been at the club, he could have been a Palace player 2 years ago for a small fee.

Now, after everyone can read his numbers in the Championship, everybody wants him. This is not the time to go after a player. Say you pay 25 million for him and he has a bad phase in the PL and doesn't score. Can you get those million back next summer? No, cause no PL clubs will want him if he doesn't cut it. So, he's a pretty big gamble. Wouldn't have been so big a few years ago though....

 

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View dp's Profile dp Flag Tunbridge Wells 07 Jan 19 9.10am Send a Private Message to dp Add dp as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

Gambles are respective of the price you pay.

You seem to suggest that he would cost the same amount as the others we're linked with.

I like him all right and I think that everyone does, but I think that the ship has sailed in his case. He should have been taken since he was a goalscorer in the French second division. I don't want to brag, but if I had been at the club, he could have been a Palace player 2 years ago for a small fee.

Now, after everyone can read his numbers in the Championship, everybody wants him. This is not the time to go after a player. Say you pay 25 million for him and he has a bad phase in the PL and doesn't score. Can you get those million back next summer? No, cause no PL clubs will want him if he doesn't cut it. So, he's a pretty big gamble. Wouldn't have been so big a few years ago though....

Isn’t it a fact of life that every successful player would have been cheaper a few years before he was successful? Also, isn’t it a fact that if you sign a player before he is successful then the price will reflect the risk that you take because of the likelihood that he is not successful.

Your post seems to sit on the fence a bit. On one side of the fence, you seem to suggest that he would have signed for Palace two years ago and been successful - if you had been at Palace. Whereas on the other side you seem to say that he might have a bad phase in the PL now and thus may not be a success. Which is it?

It seems to me that success in the Premiership will depend upon whether he scores goals in the Premiership, which is not related to purchase price. Sørloth would not have been any more successful in the Premiership if we had paid a million for him.

 

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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 09 Jan 19 7.04pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

This post has been merged from a topic called 'Maupay(costs 15M+) compared to Ligue 2 top scorer ' by bexleydave

I noticed Neal Maupay gets a lot of love on this website. I like Maupay a lot. But he would also come very pricey now that he's made himself a name in the English football. And you know where Maupauy came from? The Ligue 2 in France.

Came to Brentford after scoring 11 goals and providing 3 assists in Dijon and St Etienne at 19 and 20 years old (so 14 in 3100 minutes- a great rate for a 20 year old, but obviously he was to develop even further from that age)

At Brentford he has 29 goals and 11 assists in 2 years until the age of 22 (-4 cause they were penalties that gives him 25+11= 36 in 4700 minutes, a great return)

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Of course he wouldn't have the same return a division higher, but I think he could score the same number in about 7000 minutes of football, so he'd have in the PL roughly a goal or an assist every 200 minutes or so. For a 22-23 year it's actually good.

But they are asking 20 million for him (read an Aston Villa news saying they demanded that) and would surely not settle for any less than 15-16.

That's why I want to compare Maupay with the top scorer from the Ligue 2. HABIB DIALLO, Senegalese, is 23, so similar age with Maupay. What has he done until now?

Well, in the last 2 years he scored 24 and assisted 9 (-4 which were penalties he still has 29 in 3500 minutes, kind of like Maupay's record in England and trust me, there isn't much difference between the English 2nd league and the French 2nd league, just slightly)

And the 2 years before that? Did he grow up well until 21? He scored 17 and assisted 6 in 2900 minutes. Amazing for a 19-20 year old in Ligue 2! And he played a lot as winger too, which Maupay hasn't.

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Not trying to do anything against Maupay with this post, but prices in England are about 3x more inflated than in France. I can see Metz selling Diallo for as litle as 5-6 million.

Also, Diallo is a center forward at 1,86 in height. Maupay is more like a second striker at 1,75.


I don't know if the transfer is possible though because of work permit reglations, Habib Diallo is a national team component, but he has just began to play for them and doesn't have the number of games the FA requires. However, they should realize that a top scorer od the French second division at 23 is big investment for the future.


Also, there is 22 year old MOUSSA KONE from Dynamo Dresden, also Senegalese, at 1,75 in height is similar to Maupay, very strong, very good, capable of playing on the wings too, would be very cheap at 4-5 million at most considering what he'd offer: 42 goals and 13 assists in 5000 minutes for Dynamo Dresden and FC Zurich of Switzerland. That's more goals and assists than hundreds of minutes played!

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Dynamo Dresden has bought him for just 2 million, I'm sure they'd sell for around 4-5, but again, there could be problems relating to work permit.

However, I'd really like to see a Senegalese partnership of Moussa Kone (shorter striker) and Habib Diallo (center forward type) up front for Crystal Palace. This is a phenomenal partnership of player you could sell for more than 40 million each in a few years.

Edited by mattteo (10 Jan 2019 5.52pm)

 

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View gegne78's Profile gegne78 Flag Wellingborough , Northants 09 Jan 19 7.48pm Send a Private Message to gegne78 Add gegne78 as a friend

This post has been merged from a topic called 'Maupay(costs 15M+) compared to Ligue 2 top scorer ' by bexleydave

Great post .

SSN just stated that the manager will accept offers of £20m +

 

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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 09 Jan 19 8.34pm

This post has been merged from a topic called 'Maupay(costs 15M+) compared to Ligue 2 top scorer ' by bexleydave

Great post like it. On those figures I'd personally like to see more about the lad at Dresden.

Have you thought of offering your services to Palace? This kind of information would surely justify putting a scout on a plane to Dresden, surely?

Given our record with transfers, I'm not confident this sort of research is currently being done in house!

 

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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Maupay(costs 15M+) compared to Ligue 2 top scorer ' by bexleydave

Originally posted by ChrisGC


Have you thought of offering your services to Palace? This kind of information would surely justify putting a scout on a plane to Dresden, surely?


Who wouldn't like to work for a big club? But I don't have anyone to reccommend me. I have my books articles on football topics for the last 10 years and if you read them at their time you can see how I predicted players like Coutinho or Griezmann would get this high ever since they were playing in Espanyol or Real Sociedad and cost less than 5 million.

I can take a club from relegation to Champions League winner in 10-15 years through constant growth using the transfer periods and making it richer and richer until rivaling the best in the world, but many people on this website will say I'm not good at this, even though you can take all my posts from 3 years ago and you'll see that everything I said came true and all my posts still stand.

So, if you want to, you and anyone else who appreciates me can message the board into hiring me...

 

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