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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 29 Dec 18 3.04pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

This always throws up the usual whataboutery argument

Why can't we just be happy for them?

I think Kane's captaincy and all round professionalism was exemplary compared to the petulance showed by others representing England ie Rooney and Beckham and South gate's manner and professionalism was also refreshing compared to the buffoonary showed by many of his predecessors

Not a question of being happy. It's the importance attached to unimportant endeavors while people who make a real sacrifice and meaningful contributions are ignored.
Only someone who actually wins the World Cup should even be considered for honours and even then, a minor one. It's football.

 

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Pussay Patrol Flag 29 Dec 18 3.14pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Not a question of being happy. It's the importance attached to unimportant endeavors while people who make a real sacrifice and meaningful contributions are ignored.
Only someone who actually wins the World Cup should even be considered for honours and even then, a minor one. It's football.

Who was ignored?

Was there a person nominated who was overlooked more deserving?

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 29 Dec 18 3.35pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Who was ignored?

Was there a person nominated who was overlooked more deserving?

So you think footballers/managers deserve major honours? Yes or no.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 29 Dec 18 3.46pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Not a question of being happy. It's the importance attached to unimportant endeavors while people who make a real sacrifice and meaningful contributions are ignored.
Only someone who actually wins the World Cup should even be considered for honours and even then, a minor one. It's football.

There is a huge feelgood factor attached to winning football matches and getting as far as we did in the World Cup had a hugely beneficial effect on the country's psyche as well as an economic boost


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chateauferret Flag 29 Dec 18 5.34pm

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

Who was ignored?

Was there a person nominated who was overlooked more deserving?

Hah. Why do you think Government Departments have a security classification "RESTRICTED - HONOURS" specifically designed to stop anyone finding this out?

The other thing you'll notice if you look through the Honours list is screeds and screeds of cicil servants. You'll find that these are all the civil servants who've been passed over for promotion and somehow honours are some kind of sop to those who reach their ceiling and then serve for years and years and years. (There are not enough opportunities in the Civil Service to conclude that anyone who misses out on promotion is a doofus. However, some who get honours will turn out to be muppets).

 


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chateauferret Flag 29 Dec 18 5.36pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

There is a huge feelgood factor attached to winning football matches and getting as far as we did in the World Cup had a hugely beneficial effect on the country's psyche as well as an economic boost


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Care to quantify this "economic boost" for us in pounds Sterling, ME?

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 29 Dec 18 5.54pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

There is a huge feelgood factor attached to winning football matches and getting as far as we did in the World Cup had a hugely beneficial effect on the country's psyche as well as an economic boost


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So the honours system is there to make us all feel better or honour those who made that happen?

I'm not sure it was originally intended for that but it seems to have become about that.
The ultimate result is that an OBE is diluted to a token.


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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 29 Dec 18 6.11pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger


So the honours system is there to make us all feel better of honour those who made that happen?

I'm not sure it was originally intended for that but it seems to have become about that.
The ultimate result is that an OBE is diluted to a token.


OBE = Oh Bloody ‘Ell, which is what I exclaimed when I heard the news.

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 29 Dec 18 9.08pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

The honours system should be scrapped as it is massively corrupt. If you donate enough money to a party and you will get an honour, screw up as an MP and get sacked by the voters you get a peerage. This is not new Lloyd George was selling them 100 years ago.

They throw in a few celebrities and the token cleaner / nurse / carer (who get the cheap medals) to disguise the hundreds of senior gongs handed out to time serving establishment figures.

You will never be able to reform it so that only the deserving get it so better to abolish it, most countries don't do this.

I have no problems with medals for bravery that is something else but just because you worked in the civil service and are retiring on your fat inflation proof pension why do you deserve a gong. Each year thousands of NHS staff retire where's there medal? Come to that where mine for services to banking and IT? And I certainly deserve a medal for supporting Palace for 50 years.


 


One more point

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View Morpeth Eagle's Profile Morpeth Eagle 29 Dec 18 10.21pm Send a Private Message to Morpeth Eagle Add Morpeth Eagle as a friend

I`ve done f**k all in 2018,so wheres mine`????Totally corrupt nowadays .. Kane carnt even spell OBE/MBE/CBE etc etc ... Whole system nowadays = Total joke

 

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Pussay Patrol Flag 29 Dec 18 10.21pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

So you think footballers/managers deserve major honours? Yes or no.

which meaningful contributions were ignored?

your words

 


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View elgrande's Profile elgrande Flag bedford 29 Dec 18 10.32pm Send a Private Message to elgrande Add elgrande as a friend

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

which meaningful contributions were ignored?

your words

How about every nurse who has worked like crazy for years and years,and now retiring ...

 


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