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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 15 Jan 19 5.20pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Poor little mite.

Right on our doorstep

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We so need to get better at teaching parenting (and grandparenting).

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag Wisbech, England 15 Jan 19 5.27pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

It has nothing to do with education.....nothing can be done about stupidity.

 

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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 15 Jan 19 5.29pm Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

It's called , actually giving a fxxx
And the good people in society have given up on saying anything because it's not politically correct to question people anymore.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 15 Jan 19 6.04pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

It has nothing to do with education.....nothing can be done about stupidity.

Hmm, got to wonder why you bother then...

I don't agree, you can teach how to consider the potential dangers to children. But we don't. We used to though.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag Wisbech, England 15 Jan 19 6.10pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Hmm, got to wonder why you bother then...

I don't agree, you can teach how to consider the potential dangers to children. But we don't. We used to though.

This child was three....you want to teach about the potential dangers of playing in car footwells to three year olds?

This was about the guy...not the child. You can't fix irresponsible impulses. This will always happen.

As for me....come on be sensible I was teaching computer science and IT Maple....knowledge.

Ethics are the domain of the family....the state is a terribly ineffective substitute for that.

You seriously don't think schools don't try to socially engineer as it is? You seriously don't think this guy had the usual messages shoved down his neck? Of course he did.

You are reacting emotionally....which on one level I understand but.....this stuff will always be with us.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Jan 2019 6.20pm)

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 15 Jan 19 6.33pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

This child was three....you want to teach about the potential dangers of playing in car footwells to three year olds?

This was about the guy...not the child. You can't fix irresponsible impulses. This will always happen.

As for me....come on be sensible I was teaching computer science and IT Maple....knowledge.

Ethics are the domain of the family....the state is a terribly ineffective substitute for that.

You seriously don't think schools don't try to socially engineer as it is? You seriously don't think this guy had the usual messages shoved down his neck? Of course he did.

You are reacting emotionally....which on one level I understand but.....this stuff will always be with us.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Jan 2019 6.20pm)

You misread me

Teach parents about potential dangers to children

Even the thick ones should be able to grasp some of the basics if it's drummed into them.

No, schools don't teach about how to parent to any significant degree. At least not in my time.

For example basic anatomy of small children and how easily they can be damaged. Perhaps some horror stories about damage done.

And it isn't just the bloke, the mother was in the back with the child wasn't she? Presumably neither realised the potential consequences, especially after the first incident.

Regarding yourself, you said nothing can be done about stupidity so I said in that case why do you bother. Everyone is stupid until they learn. Some start from lower bases than others and have a lower zenith, but almost everyone can learn.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag Wisbech, England 15 Jan 19 6.48pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

You misread me

Teach parents about potential dangers to children

Even the thick ones should be able to grasp some of the basics if it's drummed into them.

No, schools don't teach about how to parent to any significant degree. At least not in my time.

For example basic anatomy of small children and how easily they can be damaged. Perhaps some horror stories about damage done.

And it isn't just the bloke, the mother was in the back with the child wasn't she? Presumably neither realised the potential consequences, especially after the first incident.

Regarding yourself, you said nothing can be done about stupidity so I said in that case why do you bother. Everyone is stupid until they learn. Some start from lower bases than others and have a lower zenith, but almost everyone can learn.


Perhaps you are just misguided about what can be controlled in life.

This kind of thing can't be controlled.

The state cannot change this kind of event no matter what is said. You are simply being unrealistic.

Teaching in schools cannot change what is innate within people. A stupid impulse is a stupid impulse.
The state isn't a nanny. Families need responsible people within them and the state can't be....nor should it even try to be a replacement for that......It's an impossible expectation and questionable ethically itself.

Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Jan 2019 6.51pm)

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag Wisbech, England 15 Jan 19 6.59pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

I became a teacher to teach my subject.

That what I did and I provided some pastoral care within my role as a form tutor.

Saying teachers need to teach adults that they shouldn't be taking actions that hurt their children is nonsensical. Children at knowable risk are the domain of social workers....teachers already help within this domain in terms of raising concerns.

I understand your frustration. I found this situation upsetting and I expect most of us are angry about it.


Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Jan 2019 7.06pm)

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View ChrisGC's Profile ChrisGC Flag Wantage 15 Jan 19 7.16pm Send a Private Message to ChrisGC Add ChrisGC as a friend

How can anyone read that and think it's got anything to do with education?

The bloke deliberately crushed a child, not once but twice with a car seat.

An electric car seat no less. He knew.

He's lucky he's not being done for murder and her aiding.

She's worse, actually tried covering for him. Bunch of scumbags.

 

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View the silurian's Profile the silurian Flag The garden of England. 15 Jan 19 7.36pm Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by ChrisGC

How can anyone read that and think it's got anything to do with education?

The bloke deliberately crushed a child, not once but twice with a car seat.

An electric car seat no less. He knew.

He's lucky he's not being done for murder and her aiding.

She's worse, actually tried covering for him. Bunch of scumbags.

Yeah this! Both should be locked up for the rest of their s***ty lives, the bloke should be beaten up every single day of his sentence

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 15 Jan 19 7.50pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by ChrisGC

How can anyone read that and think it's got anything to do with education?

The bloke deliberately crushed a child, not once but twice with a car seat.

An electric car seat no less. He knew.

He's lucky he's not being done for murder and her aiding.

She's worse, actually tried covering for him. Bunch of scumbags.

Yes

In your view they meant for this outcome, so knew the effects of their actions?

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View ChrisGC's Profile ChrisGC Flag Wantage 15 Jan 19 7.52pm Send a Private Message to ChrisGC Add ChrisGC as a friend

Originally posted by the silurian

Yeah this! Both should be locked up for the rest of their s***ty lives, the bloke should be beaten up every single day of his sentence

Correct. Some offences are beyond redemption or reform.

It should be about punishment, send a message for others to learn by if you believe it's about 'education'.

 

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