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View monkey's Profile monkey Flag 09 Mar 19 9.52pm Send a Private Message to monkey Add monkey as a friend

We just seem content with a lot of sideways passing, playing the ball across the back, no-one has the ability to play a decent ball forward, or get the ball in midfield and drive forward.
Roy obviously said something at half time today, because you could clearly see Luka and McArthur starting to pass and carry the ball forward, but it’s just not their natural game. That’s why for me we always look a better side with Kouyate and Meyer on the pitch, but I think Roy’s plan is just to stay in games till the second half and then have a bit of a go, but as always, goals change games and Brighton’s second goal seemed to knock the stuffing out of us, just as we were getting on top, which happens a lot at home.

 

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View Booted Eagle's Profile Booted Eagle Flag Bristol 09 Mar 19 9.59pm Send a Private Message to Booted Eagle Add Booted Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by monkey

We just seem content with a lot of sideways passing, playing the ball across the back, no-one has the ability to play a decent ball forward, or get the ball in midfield and drive forward.
Roy obviously said something at half time today, because you could clearly see Luka and McArthur starting to pass and carry the ball forward, but it’s just not their natural game. That’s why for me we always look a better side with Kouyate and Meyer on the pitch, but I think Roy’s plan is just to stay in games till the second half and then have a bit of a go, but as always, goals change games and Brighton’s second goal seemed to knock the stuffing out of us, just as we were getting on top, which happens a lot at home.

Good points. That was surely the time to be adventurous after we had got back to parity and stick on Meyer etc. for the tired legs ?

 


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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 09 Mar 19 10.04pm Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

50 mil with rh in charge would be exactly the same.
Im sure he said once the squad was fully fit we would climb the table.
Well they are and we are not!!!!

..defence is missing someone isn't it.

 

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View pompeyeagle's Profile pompeyeagle Flag Relocated to Shropshire 09 Mar 19 10.04pm Send a Private Message to pompeyeagle Add pompeyeagle as a friend

And that’s exactly the point. Roy just doesn’t seem to understand when is the right time to make changes. Other managers would see things are not going well and do something about it but Roy doesn’t.

 

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View eagle@ tn34's Profile eagle@ tn34 Flag hastings 09 Mar 19 10.36pm Send a Private Message to eagle@ tn34 Add eagle@ tn34 as a friend

I thought today there was plenty of times when brighton were pushed right up and we still tried to play it across the back. Batshuyai was pointing forward but at no time did we lob the ball forward like they did for their first goal. Dont understand it myself we just kept playing the same throughout the whole match - which in its self is a reflection of our home form this season, if not the last few.

COYP

 

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View HeathMan's Profile HeathMan Flag Purley 09 Mar 19 10.39pm Send a Private Message to HeathMan Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add HeathMan as a friend

Saw some lovely ball control, but no end product - a penalty is not a goal from open play.

There seem, to me, to be three problems:-

opponents come and park the bus - all the passing around the middle of the pitch needed to entice opponents away from their goal. Trouble is the passing game moves forward slowly, allowing opponents to get back behind the ball,

we do not seem to be able to deal with rotational fouling, with the referee seeking to prevent retaliation - our players get a sniff of the ball and fall over to slow the game - by this the referee slows our game.

Our players seem to be fair game for outrageous actions, like being flattened in tackles.

Also

 

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View HeathMan's Profile HeathMan Flag Purley 09 Mar 19 10.43pm Send a Private Message to HeathMan Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add HeathMan as a friend

Better version

Saw some lovely ball control, but no end product - a penalty is not a goal from open play.

There seem, to me, to be three problems:-

opponents come and park the bus - all the passing around the middle of the pitch needed to entice opponents away from their goal. Trouble is the passing game moves forward slowly, allowing opponents to get back behind the ball,

we do not seem to be able to deal with rotational fouling, with the referee seeking to prevent retaliation - our players get a sniff of the ball and opponents fall over to slow the game - by this the referee slows our game.

Our players seem to be fair game for outrageous actions, like being flattened in tackles.

We need the middle to be controlled with the ball moving quickly from wing to wing and into an almost empty opposing penalty area, where one of our players is ready.

 

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View cardiff eagle's Profile cardiff eagle Online Flag 10 Mar 19 9.16am Send a Private Message to cardiff eagle Add cardiff eagle as a friend

Originally posted by pompeyeagle

And that’s exactly the point. Roy just doesn’t seem to understand when is the right time to make changes. Other managers would see things are not going well and do something about it but Roy doesn’t.

Meyer was stripped off and ready to come on and was just standing their for five minutes while Roy didn’t bring him on. In that period of time they scored and then Meyer comes on. Was so ridiculous. Not saying he would’ve stopped their goal but why have him ready and then wait five minutes.

 

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 10 Mar 19 9.37am Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Everybody at the game yesterday could see we had a lot of tired legs on the park. As soon as we got the equaliser and we were in control of the game which we were for about 15 mins, the subs should have been made. Roy makes reluctant and reactionary substitutions rather then preempting what is required to go on and win the game. You could see the Brighton players were crapping themselves when we equalised and they were totally on the back foot. That is when we needed to turn the screw.

 

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View Elpis's Profile Elpis Flag In a pub 10 Mar 19 10.02am Send a Private Message to Elpis Add Elpis as a friend

Originally posted by YT


Except we didn't play the same team as we did last week.


Edited by YT (09 Mar 2019 8.41pm)

True and last weeks changes maybe goes someway to proving my point . At home we go back to the same side every week

 

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View dynamicdick's Profile dynamicdick Flag Dormansland 10 Mar 19 10.08am Send a Private Message to dynamicdick Add dynamicdick as a friend

Originally posted by Tickled pink

..defence is missing someone isn't it.[/quote

We have the squad without Sakho to get up the table to 10th, Its the set up and tactics at home that are the problem and that lies firmly at Roy’s door!


 


Bring back Brolin

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View Dangermouse's Profile Dangermouse Flag Hastings 10 Mar 19 10.13am Send a Private Message to Dangermouse Add Dangermouse as a friend

There's a debate to be had about Meyer, but when fit Kouyate must play. It's a no brainer.
The way Roy sets us up at home is clearly not working and against a team that's gonna sit back you need quality in midfield and a ball playing cb. Sakho missing is massive, a cb who can bring the ball out and who can thread a throughball. Something Batshuayi was screaming for all game, a nice early ball and a foot race. Sadly it never arrived.
Today was Groundhog day, tika-taka around the corners of the box, get to the byeline and pull it back into a crowded area. It's rarely worked this season, so why persist? When it does sometimes break to one of ours they refuse to shoot unless they have a totally clear path. The amount of fakes to shoot are ridiculous, can no one execute the Ozil scuff? Seriously guys we may get a deflection a ricochet that goes our way, have a dig, especially you Wilf.
We knew how they'd play and sadly they knew how we would. If he's gonna persist with basically three ratters and two big lump cb's then I'd have gone for Benteke long balls upfield and feed off the second balls. It would have been no worse than what we did.
Many are saying we were too complacent, but I didn't see that. I saw a team that was edgy, nervous, especially when we were behind. In the first half we were rushing around just to take throw ins for Christ's sake, we had no composure. Personally felt the crowd didn't help either. I know it wasn't great, but the groans made some players keep playing safe sideways and in the last 15 it made others try passes (PvA) that just weren't on to avoid the groans, but they sadly just produced bigger groans. I know it's hard to do, but like the team we lost our composure and actually resorted to abusing opposition players rather than back our own, something I personally hate hearing. Surely those loud Dunk chants would have been better being loud Palace chants late in the game.
Oh yes, finally. Set pieces. Do we have any plans whatsoever? Same taker, same try to float it in, same result. No gimmicks, no training ground routines, nothing.

Edited by Dangermouse (10 Mar 2019 10.16am)

 


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